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rinapie

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Re: MERGED: My dog is sick :( help!
« Reply #480 on: January 28, 2014, 01:42:26 pm »
^ She's a lot better now. her appetite is back to patay-gutom mode, no vomiting, poop's soft but firm (or formed) without visible traces of blood, still a little weak but she barks and she's active. We're still vigilant though, because she's still recovering so other disease or infection might just attack her recovering body and in some cases, baka na-delay lang yung neurological stage(hope not!!).

I think si doc me-an ang nag check sa dog ko and nag bigay ng body shot. after namin malaman ng vet ko dito sa amin na distemper, dinala ko agad sa vip since sila yung believer ng NDV shots dito sa atin. Supposedly, two days after the body shot she'll get better. on the third day she tried eating pero nag-suka lang ulit and wont eat anything again the whole week. we considered trying the serum but it's way too expensive considering that i have an almost 50kilograms dog. so we decided to try supportive treatments for a while. I think my dog is fighting the virus as well. for three weeks, she's weak, not eating, and vomiting but she would still drink and pee. Pinaka mahirap nung last week before she got better kasi she's almost vomiting blood and in some instances, her stool is bloody as well. hay...puyatan and stress galore but seeing her now that she's recovering, all worth it. I'm praying that she'll truly recover.

by the way, may mga tinatamaan pa din daw kahit may shots kaya minsan sa over all health or immune system siguro nagkakatalo. kung sobrang hina ng immune system or may sakit pa siyang iba, mas madali tablan siguro ng virus. Yung dog ko naman nagkasakit right before her scheduled annual shot and before distemper, positive din siya sa ehrlichia.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2014, 01:50:17 pm by rinapie »

twelve5

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Re: MERGED: My dog is sick :( help!
« Reply #481 on: January 28, 2014, 07:43:59 pm »
^ hi sis! Glad to know she's on her way back to good health. Just let her rest some more and avoid unnecessary travel and pasyal, if madalas nyo ipasyal... Your dog is fighter. Im sure she'll pull through.

Ganun na nga, sis, vaccines are no guarantee that our pets wont get sick. Nakaka praning... Kaya ako di ko na gano pinapasyal lalo na sa places na madaming dogs like tiendesitas.

Maybe we'll bump into each other at vip wp.. Hehe  :)

rinapie

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« Reply #482 on: January 29, 2014, 11:11:19 am »
^thanks, sis twelve5. usually sa umaga ko na lang siya nilalakad to catch the morning sun. malamig din kasi ngayon, mabuti ng naarawan.

kaya nga ngayon mas nagbibigay ako ng supplement. i dont really give supplements before kasi baka mas lalo tumakaw pero ngayon na nagkasakit siya, i think mas kailangan na.

hehe! oo nga! see you when i see you!

abuanddiego

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« Reply #483 on: February 01, 2014, 04:08:25 pm »
^dapat gawa tayo ng club "Distemper Survivors" may nabasa pala ako, advice ng ibang vets lalo yung maker ng serum, pag survivor daw wag na ulit bigyan ng distemper shots kasi immune na sila sa virus. The vaccine is almost useless at makakasama pa in the long run. My dog is turning 6yo, halos one year na syang walang booster shots, parang ayoko na sya palagyan since nagkakaedad na, di rin naman kami mahilig mamasyal

rinapie

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« Reply #484 on: February 03, 2014, 10:58:20 am »
^i agree, support sa mga may alagang nagka-distemper. marami pa rin yata na kapag distemper give up agad. minsan kelangan lang ng TLC para maka recover sila. kahit sa parvo, may narinig na ako na naka recover. update sa dog ko, two weeks na walang vomiting and appetite is very good, pati yung poop niya ang ganda na though medyo madalas pa din. medyo naga-adjust pa daw yung digestive system kasi three weeks nga naman na walang laman.

sabi nga din ng vet namin, strong enough na yung anti bodies niya sa distemper virus kumbaga.


twelve5

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« Reply #485 on: February 03, 2014, 12:16:09 pm »
^ wow! Great news! Sana full recovery sya. =)

abuanddiego

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« Reply #486 on: February 03, 2014, 07:30:55 pm »
^^i'm glad to hear that, sana wag na talaga magkaron ng neuro symptoms. pero feeling ko di na tutuloy yun, may dugong kalabaw din yang anak mo ;)

some vets kasi believe na wala ng hope for this case, sila pa mismo magaadvice ng euthanasia so important din na competent and updated ang vets natin. another reason is the cost, money is needed to get rid of this virus. kung wala tayong budget, wala tayong magagawa :'(

Veterinary treatment is only half of the battle, the other half should come from us. let's make them feel that no matter what happens, we will always be there for them. let's give our 1000% commitment, in sickness and in health, walang iwanan. Kasi pag nakita nilang lumalaban tayo, lalaban din sila.

naku i received a pm, positive for distemper din ang dog nya :'( i hope makarecover..

twelve5

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« Reply #487 on: February 03, 2014, 07:41:58 pm »
^ parang mejo uso distemper? Sabi din sa VIP may mga cases sila now. Nawo worry tuloy ako.

rinapie

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« Reply #488 on: February 04, 2014, 11:19:37 am »
thanks! i am continuously praying na super okay na yung alaga ko.

^^true. actually yung tests pa lang para malaman yung sakit, medyo mabigat na sa bulsa and imagine, halos isang buwan yung kasagsagan ng distemper nung alaga ko and she's almost 50kl. sa bigat niya at tagal, madugo ang gastos and yung everyday nakikita mo na mahina at nangangayayat yung alaga mo, madugo sa puso. kaya lang din nagastusan ko ay dahil nung nag decide ako magkaroon ng aso, may emergency fund na talaga ako. hehe! anak lang talaga! yung vet din naman, payag ng hulugan, kausapin lang ng maayos.

sana nga maka-recover... naalala ko, unang goal ko nung nagka sakit yung alaga ko is i-boost yung immune system since virus siya. nagbigay yata akong vitamin c at malunggay nun. hehe!

^hindi kaya may kinalaman sa pagkalat din yan ng tigdas dahil magkamag-anak sila? naisip ko lang naman...



abuanddiego

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« Reply #489 on: February 04, 2014, 03:14:42 pm »
yup ang dami kong naririnig na ganitong case sa mga dog groups. unfortunately, ang daming di nakakasurvive. tapos kakaunti talaga yung aware sa NDV treatment, ang alam nila hopeless case na. kaya nawawalan din ng pag-asa ang mga owners :'(

wala naman tayong magagawa kasi kahit may shots, may chance pa rin mahawa. the only thing we can do is to strengthen their immunity nila para may panlaban.

may point ka dyan rinapie, halos same ang virus nato sa measles. sana makaisip ang mga vets ng way para wag na kumalat, parang pasikat kasi ng pasikat, dati rare ito eh :'(

dr.smile

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« Reply #490 on: February 05, 2014, 02:54:25 am »
Anong success rate ng distemper cases? Im so scared for my puppy whos been diagnosed with distemper..

shshshsh

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« Reply #491 on: February 05, 2014, 03:39:20 am »
Sis rinapie!! My dog was diagnosed with distemper! :'((( di ko ala agawin ko. niresetahan kami nung vet antibiotic and vit b twice a day. :'(( magkano ndv?

shshshsh

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« Reply #492 on: February 05, 2014, 04:19:19 am »
bed ridden na siya eh but she still drinks water and eats soft food. pero di na talaga siya masyado makagalaw. i dont know if she's in pain. may pag asa pa kaya??

rinapie

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« Reply #493 on: February 05, 2014, 10:36:54 am »
dr. smile and shshshsh...sa mga nabasa ko, 20% for puppies and 50% sa adult dogs ang success rate. you can bring your dog to Vets in Practice or Pendragon Veterinary. sila yung mga nabasa kong naniniwala sa new castles vaccine or NDV/NCD vaccine or serum. Walang guaranty na pag galing but it helps daw in fighting the virus. matagal na ba silang na-diagnose ng distemper? kung wala pa namang seizures or twitching i believe pwede pa yung NCD na iniinject lang. kung walang nagbago within two days or a week, serum na dapat and kapag may seizure or twitching, that means na nasa neurological stage na, na nasa utak na yung virus, spinal tap na. kaso ang risk ay baka hindi magising yung dog. better bring your dogs to them na lang para sure.

nung na-diagnose na may distemper yung alaga ko sa vet namin, dinala ko agad sa vip. nag test ulit, positive pa rin. since wala pang twitching, body shot/ ncd vaccine/shot muna yung binigay. sabi sa amin, observe and supposedly may pagbabago na within two days. on the third day after the shot, tumikim siya ng food pero after noon, wala, nagsuka lang siya ulit ng nagsuka at hindi kumakain. after a few days, iba na yung vomit niya, nagkaroon na ng gastro intestinal bleeding. anyway, basta tinuloy lang ang pag-aalaga. tiyaga sa force feeding, pagbibigay ng meds, vitamins, paglinis and all... hanggang na-control na yung vomiting, no bloody vomiting and stools and she's almost normal for two weeks now. hopefully tuloy tuloy lang... continues din paglilinis ng bahay para mawala naman yung virus na nag stay sa bahay.

si sis abuanddiego naka survive yung dog niya ng supportive treatments lang and may neurological symptoms na yun ha.

pwedeng makuha sa tyaga at dasal kaya alagaan ninyo lang.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2014, 02:56:46 pm by rinapie »

abuanddiego

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« Reply #494 on: February 05, 2014, 10:37:01 pm »
50% success rate nga pag viral infection, pero think positive at gawin lahat ng makakaya. don't lose hope and pray hard.

I think depende rin sa resistensya nila ang chance for survival, kasi yung iba kahit nabigyan na ng NDV di pa rin kinaya. again wag mawalan ng pag-asa, my dog had neuro symptoms-twitchings and chewing gum fit, hindi na rin sya gumagalaw at kumakain pero nakasurvive. after a year, nawala rin yung twitchings niya. pero feeling ko humina na immunity kasi nagkamange. pabalik-balik ang mange pero ang mahalaga is kasama ko pa rin sya. 1yo sya nainfect, he's turning 6yo na this april. iniexpect ko na rin na mas magiging prone sya sa sickness since nadamage na ang system nya ng virus, pero life must goes on. tuloy lang kung san nagsimula at walang iwanan.
here's my baby boy:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1012629_480173458735944_1112201648_n.jpg
iisipin bang nagkadistemper yang baboy na yan? ;)

taken from their site: Save Dogs From Canine Distemper
We offer hope, not guarantees. Dogs usually should be treated before
going through the sixth day of symptoms. Beyond that, it is likely to
become a neurologic case, and hard to treat.

Some advice on diagnosing distemper in the early stages:

http://www.kindheartsinaction.com/archives/166

Make sure to explore our website, to get an idea of what is possible:

http://www.kindheartsinaction.com/archives/41

http://www.kindheartsinaction.com/archives/82

Make sure to explore the rest of the website.

For a dog having seizures, tics, twitches, paralysis, balance issues, muscle-control problems, which is in the
neuro phase, the treatment is the NDV spinal tap. That is explained here:

http://www.kindheartsinaction.com/archives/88

It has a nearly 50 percent survival rate for dogs in the neuro stage. But
that is much better than doing nothing. Dogs often die in this stage.

Vets who can help:

Dr. Nielsen Donato of
Vets in Practice Animal Clinic with telephone number +6325311581.
He is in Mandaluyong City, Philippines, in the Metro Manila Area.

Someone else from the Philippines wrote to tell me this about the costs:

"The cost for making NDV serum here is about $120 (procedure) + $72 (vet fee) + payment for every visit for the serum injections; whereas, the spinal tap is just $72."

As to the serum costs, someone else wrote to be to say that if your dog is to be treated with the serum in
Manilla you need to understand some things first. You need to ask:

1) How much are the serum injections? I have been told that they can
cost as little as 1,800 Pesos, but as much as 3,800 Pesos may be
needed.

2) A donor dog is often needed to create the serum. You may need to be
the one who provides the donor dog if the clinic is out of serum. It
may then take 8,000 Pesos to make the serum. Plus you may need to pay
for the boarding of the donor dog.

3) However, it is sometimes possible to save a dog with the NDV
without making the serum. That is discussed on these links:

http://www.kindheartsinaction.com/archives/313

http://www.kindheartsinaction.com/archives/41

I do not have any control over the costs and policies of the vets who
use these treatments, but I think it wise for you do know what
questions to ask.

Here is a blog about Icy, who was treated in the Philippines:

http://clarissequitco.multiply.com/.../Icys_Canine_Distemper

I also made contact with another vet named Edison Cepeda in
(Laguna) His contact number: 09198370257 and 09175137756

I also recently heard that the Vets in Practice Alabang in Alabang,
Muntinlupa also uses the NDV treatments.

You might also read this blog on another dog in the Philippines:

http://adventuresofabeautyqueen.com/.../how-my-dog.../

If you cannot reach the vets listed above, my advice would be to
approach local to you to see if they would be willing to try these
treatments. The NDV can often be found in agricultural stores. It is a
vaccine used on chickens, but it has the ability to stop distemper in
the dog.

Let me know if you need further help,

Ed Bond

shshshsh

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« Reply #495 on: February 06, 2014, 09:54:47 am »
rinapie and abuanddiego thank you sainyo! nabuhayan ako ng loob. kasi ready na kami pakawalan siya,  give-up na kami. Pumunta na ko sa vet niya para sabihin pa-euthanize na lang siya kasi parang hirap na siya parang in pain siya tas tinitiis niya lang. Pero pag dating ko dun, off pa lang nung doc niya. tas pag-uwi ko much better na yung lagay niya parang di na siya in pain medyo naggalaw niya na yung legs niya minsan pero bed ridden pa rin siya. Tas naguluhan na ko kung dapat na ba siyang pakawalan then napag decide-an namin na wag na lang alagaan na lang namin siya.


Parang may twitching na siya eh. Di naman siya paralyze kasi nagagalaw naman niya legs niya pati kamay when she wants to. Parang di ko afford yung ndv gustohin ko man kaso di ko kaya. :(


Sobrang thank you talaga sainyo! dami ko rin nalaman kasi nung una parang ayoko na magbasa ng about sa distemper kasi nga give up na kami ngayon mas lalo ko na siya inaalagaan!:)

Sis abuanddiego: grabe cute ng baby boy mo ang taba! parang di nagkadistemper!haha
Supportive treatment lang ba ginawa mo? di ka nagpa shot ng ndv-ncd sa kanya?

rinapie

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« Reply #496 on: February 06, 2014, 11:11:21 am »
siguro pwede mo rin siya dalhin sa VIP to check lang naman. kung yung parang twitching niya e habang natutulog, sabi sakin hindi daw enough na basehan yun so observe ninyong mabuti rin. yung ndv/ncd, body shot nasa 800+ lang yun. yung baytril (antibiotic) ang mahal, 2k plus yung binayaran ko sa baytril lang yun for 7 days pero paalala, almost 50kl yung dog ko so mas mura naman mababayaran ninyo if ever mas magaang yung alaga ninyo. yung serum ang mahal talaga. kung di pa naman sure sa twitching, i-try na rin ninyo yung body shot.

alagaan na lang. mas mabuting sinubukan kaysa walang ginawa at all lalo pa na sabi mo, umiinom at kumakain pa naman, mas lalo kayong wag mawalan ng pag asa. for me kasi, sign yan na lumalaban talaga siya.


dr.smile

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« Reply #497 on: February 06, 2014, 07:08:23 pm »
Thanks rinapie and abuanddiego,

1 wk na since the dirst ndv shot.. Im still praying for her recovery.. 2 wks daw ang observation period..

abuanddiego

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« Reply #498 on: February 06, 2014, 07:55:57 pm »
shshsh, yes supportive treatments lang. 2009 pa nangyare yung samin kaya di pa ako aware sa NDV, 2010 ko na sya nalaman actually.

treatment nya lang is injectable antibiotics and vit. b complex for 3 days, and oral antibiotics and vitamins 3x/day for 7 days. inadvice ako for confinement pero di ko kaya mahiwalay sa kanya sa ganitong situation. sabi ko ako magpapainom ng gamot tapos home service na lang yung antibiotic shots. sa awa ng Diyos a day after the first shot, pagsilip ko tumayo tapos tumahol pagkita sakin! sabi ko, siyeeeet! buhay na yung baboy! maiyak-iyak ako nun sa tuwa kasi ineexpect ko anytime pwede sya mawala. on his 3rd shot, parang back to normal na, matakaw na ulit. natuwa nga si Doc kasi nakita nya na masigla na ulit. sabi sakin medyo safe na sa critical stage.

yung twitchings nya matagal bago nawala, after a year pa. tapos yung pads naging hard na sya, until now medyo matigas pa rin pero di na gaya ng dati.

basta don't lose hope, kahit feeling nyo wala ng pag-asa, gawin nyo pa rin lahat. wala silang kakayahan magsalita, all we can do is pray and fight til the end. If it's time to go, it will happen pero at least ginawa nyo lahat to save them. Think of it as a challenge from God, baka tinetest lang tayo hanggang san kaya natin ;)

dr.smile, wala pa naman syang twitchings? as long as wala pang neuro symptoms, mas mataas ang chance for survival. I'm praying for her, be strong kaya nyo yan :)

twelve5

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« Reply #499 on: February 06, 2014, 09:38:25 pm »
I have talked to another vet today and asked about distemper. According to her, madami daw cases ngayon. Yan din sabi sakin sa VIP.  Nakaka alarm and nakakalungkot... Sana maka survive yung mga may sakit now and wala ng new cases.

 

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