About MLM, Multi-level marketing or Networking

[o5m_m5o]

I'm saddened by a lot of the posts here...

So I have to write this...

---How To Wisely Choose A Profitable MLM/Direct Selling Company---
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Yes, true, maraming mapapajoin sa MLM and even direct selling sa hype, sa excitement, and I truly believe that dapat meron niyan.

Traditional companies have proven that without excitement, a business will just go down.

However, hindi dapat excitement lang ang meron, dapat merong mga business fundamentals.

Example, what market are the products in?

Syempre kung yung market niyan paubos ng paubos ang taong gumagamit, pangit.

Dapat lumalaki.

Good markets are health, every day, maraming nagiging older and older, and need to stay fit.

In fact ang health market kahit down ang economy, increase pa rin ng increase.

Weight loss, that's a very good market to be in if you're in the US. Sa Philippines, so, so, pero still profitable.

Vanity, yan number one sa pinoy, mga mahihilig pumorma kahit walang pera, basta makaporma.

Technology - good but with caution. Software malakas mamirata sa pinas, kaya kahit anong ganda ng product, may kayang manggaya.

Why I say good is that the tech products should be able to marketed abroad. (So tanggal na rin ang 1-sim-load-all na mga yan, unless gusto mong magpyramiding na magbenta ng hangin, ako hindi kaya ng kunsensiya kong manloko ng tao)

Kung mamamarket sa ibang bansa, eh di growing at malaki laki market mo.


Another thing to consider is pricing.

May isang company from USA, na lumakas one-time, then humina ulet.

Bakit? Ang mamahal ng mga products. Need mong bumili ng 6000+ worth of products each month.

Hello?? Ok lang sana kung madaling ipush ang product nila.

Eh ang totoo nga yan, merong demanda yung company na yan (I can provide the link) dati at isa sa mga accusations, ay yung mga products nila hindi naman different sa mga mas murang (ng sobra sobra) mga health products sa US. Hindi nila mapatunayan, kaya nagkaroon ng off-court settlement.

Here's the thing, ok lang kung mahal, basta't kayang ijustify.

Pero pag hindi, eh bakit?

As an example, yung sa current company ko, 9/sachet ang coffee. Kayang ijustify dahil wala namang maraming kasamang health ingredients yung 3-in-1 na nabibili.

Yung juice sa current company ko 18/sachet kahit doble ng laman ng barley dun sa mas kilalang brand. (275/bottle yung leading brand, kaya sila dito nagjojoin )

What I mean is, dapat kayang i-justify ang price.

Another thing is, marketing.

Fair ba at hindi exaggerated ang income?

May company akong nakita, 5988 ang membership, 1,300 ang pair.

Profitable yes. Sustainable? Hard NO.

Sandali lang yang company na 'yan... kawawa yung mga magjojoin sa huli.


Sa binary, ang pairing should be about 15% dun nung products na nabili.

Any higher, red alert na dapat, kasi kung cocomputin, siguradong tataob ang company kung itutuloy yung ganung marketing plan.

Yan yung mga magsasara, tapos magtatayo ulit ng bago dahil ang paniwala nila...

"There's a sucker born each day."

Well good news, nabasa mo to, so you are armed with a little information.

Marami pa akong pwedeng masabi, siguro next time na lang ulit... pero ito yung mga major points.

[mrs.bee]

Why 1-Sim-Load-All companies cannot work:

(Oh a lot of you probably heard of the lawsuits of one company before it changed it's name, and "management", although they're the same people)

1. For this to work, your transactions will have to go through 3 traffic-prone sets:
--> You text the command so it first has to pass through the network (sun/globe/smart)
--> Once received, your command has to be processed by their servers
--> Once parsed (processed), the command has to be relayed back to the appropriate network.

Note that loading direct will also be lagged.

Multiply that lag time by at least 3... and this is very conservative... because...

The servers are the main lagging step in this process.

Habang dumarami ang users, naooverload ang server nila. Hindi naman sila hibang na mag
-uupgrade ng server nila kasi yung kikitain nila hindi enough para magwarrant pa ng upgrade.

(Mag-isip ka nga, sentimo lang tubo nila sa load! Mahal magupgrade ng server, hindi naman million dollar companies mga yan)

Ang kita nila, dun sa mga nagpaparegister as members... kasi nagbebenta lang sila ng hangin.
(retailer for 299? Sus... libre lang gcash sa globe... in fact mura lang mga retailer sim, may kasama pang load!)

Actually totoo na may system na sinusunod before makapagload ka
- you have to text a command to acess no. ni load central
-since binabagsakan na sya ng load ng mga networks kasi one of the biggest cartels na rin sya dito kaya once na nareceive ni load central ang request
- isesend nya na ang load sa bumibili

Isa rin sa ways kung saan kami kumikita sa 1 sim load to all is yung mga retailers. Per registration is 200 pesos which is pwede na silang magtinda ng prepaid products (cp load, internet, landline, cable and even nga kuryente ngayon pwede ng maging prepaid). Everytime na nagloload sila meron din kaming override sa kita nila na 1-2% depende sa products na ginagamit nila. Aside pa dun sa lifetime discounts na meron ang dealers and retailers.

And also malaki rin ang kinikita namin sa networking side. Per registration ng naiinvite naming dealer,500 pesos ang direct referral. Bakit naman gugustihin na maging dealer kesa retailers? Kasi may benefit kaming insurance at unlimited registration ng retailers na pwede naming ibenta ng 200 isa. at ang dealers lang ang may mga pairing bonus, indirect referral bonus. Ang makatipid pa lang sa load ng buong family, mashare namin sa mga friends at kakilala namin ang discounts na meron kami malaking bagay na. yung mga friends ko nagparegister lang sila as retailers sakin ngayon nakikita ko sa account ko may pumapasok na mga override na pwede na ring gawing pangload namin ng husband ko malaking tulong na rin. yung malaman na kahit papano nakakatulong ka masarap sa pakiramdam. and magkaroon ng business lahat kami bonus na rin sa amin yun.

[super bratinella]

No work, then earn.

obvious pyramid po mga monoline.

Yung for release for releasing na yan, marami na akong nakausap, may mga nakakuha,
pero mas maraming tao yung mga hindi nakakuha.

Pay some, to make more people invest.

Ponzi scheme.

Thank you for the input and I am glad I am one of the person na nakakuha. and ang nakuha kong pera na ibalik..

[MariaOsana]

I left my job a couple of months ago after joining into a MLM company and eventually I considered it as an excellent move. Why? Because I was able to manage my time more effectively and efficiently. I focused on direct selling, studied the target market, researched about the products and within just four weeks I am already earning twice the amount of my previous salary. Isn't that great?

My advise for those who are new into this kind of business: never lose hope and you will succeed.

[sean-yugie]

Thank you for the input and I am glad I am one of the person na nakakuha. and ang nakuha kong pera na ibalik..

Sis, Oks ba Ang tinutukoy mo?

[missreese]

From what I've read, Network Marketing is different from Networking.

Network Marketing
-Small start-up capital
-Product Sales = Commission
-Buying products is not a prerequisite for membership
-Main focus: Retailing and wholesaling of products


Networking/Pyramiding
-Huge start-up capital
-Membership fees = Commission
-Buying products is a prerequisite for membership
-Main focus: Recruitment of new members/investors

[stylishmomy]

I was interested to join but two people Ive messaged didnt seem interested to send more details or update me on their progress, so wag nalang.

[mrs.bee]

I was interested to join but two people Ive messaged didnt seem interested to send more details or update me on their progress, so wag nalang.

What products sis yung gusto mo?

[fatalblossom]

Hi ladies. I thought I'd join the thread kasi manghihihngi sana ako ng advise.

I have recently decided to quit my job. I'm getting married this November. Madami akong friends na nagtaka kung bakit ako nagresign, eh ikakasal nga ako. Eh ang kaso, ayoko na talaga.

Fast forward to finding this thread, bigla ako nabuhayan ng loob. Kasi naalala ko members nga pala ako ng 3 MLM companies. Gusto ko sana humingi ng advice kung paano ko mapapalago ang business ko na ito.

Una, yun RTW na pinag memberan ko, ginawan ko ng FB page and ng order form kaso, wala naman nag oorder. Continuously may mga nag lalike sa FB page ko pero no orders still.

Pangalawa, yung cosmetics product naman (different company), dati walang problema ako mag benta kasi sa office madali makakuha ng mga orders. Pero kung mawawalan ako ng work, di na ko masyado makakapag take ng orders kasi lahat ng customers ko galing sa office. Medyo lugi din kung dun ang delivery ng products kasi mabigat ang pamasahe mula sa bahay hanggang makati. Dapat talaga bultuhan ang makuha ko orders para kumita. Parang napapanghinaan ako ng loob.

Pangatlo, yung health product naman, ang mahal ng bentahan. Sa office namin, walang kumagat dito kasi nga ang mahal. Saka ang dami nag popost sa sulit ng products namin. Parang kami kami ang nagpapatayan!

Kaya iyon sa mga successful GT multi level marketers, pa share naman ng inyong inspiring stories. IMO, gusto ko mag focus sa products kasi yun ang point of existence ng business mo - products and customers.

[ysanity]

^ I agree sis. minsan hindi natin masisisi kung bakit marami satin dito sa pinas eh nega sa netwroking or pag may narinig na silang, connection, referrals or kung ano pa man. kasi meron talagang mga ang ginagawa lang eh mag recruit tapos walang stable or magandang product or service. walang, paramihan lang ng tao. ewan ko paano yun. ako rin nega ako dito, at pag may narinig na akong kung anong kadikit ng ganon, ay ayaw ko na.

and then one time i was searching for a profitable business, lumabas itong ups-GPRS. so i searched about it, everything,kasi looks promising. nabasa ko yan pati yung bitag issues, etc. at sa kkasearch ko, nasearch ko rin na dinemanda ng gprs ang bitag for false accusation, at itong isa sa mga tulfo, he franchise or become a member of gprs. o diba! anyway, ayon na enganyo ako, sumali ako, and this business really exist. you dont have to recruit or kung ano ano na kinaayawan ng iba sa atin kasi the business and system itself eh kikita ka na. at yung mga system nila eh kasama sa pang araw araw ng buhay natin kaya hindi ka malulugi. and para sa iba na nagtatanong kapag may fee, yes. kasi makiki partner ka sakanila eh, kung baga parang sa franchising (they also have this pero big money) bibilin mo yung system nila for you to use. normal lang naman yun diba? like regular business, may capital or investment ka para may maitayo ka. and sa profit, nasayo how  you will work for it to earn. that's how business goes naman talaga diba? kaya im happy i joined and believe. im earning without going to work 7-5 tapos maliit pa sahod. hehe.

second kwento.
one evening, we have a meeting with tshirts suppliers (ito yung sa election na naging usapan din) isa sa ka-meeting namin whom i only met that night is one of the relatives ng napangasawa nung mismong may ari ng FERN-C at nagulat ako kasi I am a FERN-C user noon pa,I also showed to her na i have it in my bag. natuwa sya. pero mas natuwa ako, kasi kilala ko ang FERN-C and im a user at marami rin ako kilala na gumagamit nito. so ako mismo ang lumapit sakaniya and asked for an opportunity on how to. sabi ko i wanted to become a distributor of areas at kung ano pa. tamang tama, they are now launching FERN international (btw hindi lang Vitamin C ang product nila, may FERNslim,FERncoffee etc). bale, i-eexport na sa iba't ibang bansa yung products. so they are looking for distributors abroad, pero syempre hindi mawawala yung dito sa pinas kasama parin. kaya ayon lalo ako nagka interest kasi mas malaki ang kita, mas malaki ang hawak, tapos well earn dollars pa (if, you or your team, or your downlines has an account). gusto ko sya kasi pwede ko ibenta lang yung products itself, which is already profitable, pwede ako maging distributor dito sa pinas, at pwede rin ako or may connection ako to become an international distributor. kaya talaga sumali ako habang maaga pa kasi nasa taas ako. btw, grand launching sa SMX moa.

that's my story. kung tatanungin mo ako at aayain mo ako sumali sa networking na papahabain lang natin yung listahan ng pangalan na kasali at kung pabibilihin mo ako ng product na hindi ko magagamit at di ko kilala, hindi parin. pero kung bibigyan mo ako ng totoong business, something to sell or service to do (bonus nalang ang referral fees) pwede natin pag-usapan.

[prettygretchen]

Here's my story,

I have a friend who joined this MLM company, nun college ako nagka pimples ako so pina try niya yun soap sakin to my surprise ayun nawala yun pimples ko pati dark spots sa murang soap effective siya. Then I stop tapos pimples ulit balik ulit ako sa soap niya haha eventually inalok niya ko pati bf ko now hubby ko na last 2 years ago to do the business. Dinedma ko kahit na may camaro na siya nun. Negative kasi ko ehati asawa ko.

Kinasal siya last june dun ako nagising shocks yun asawa niya top1 in 6 years nag sipag now earns 1M a month and their wedding is so posh! At ngayon may ferrari na sila. Ngayon kaka join ko pa lang so far so good lahat ng products na nakuha ko sa pay in ko nabenta ko na. Mabenta siya pati sa maids! Grabe wala na kong stocks kinakatok pa ko ng mga kabitbahay ko ah. Byw, kaka export ko pa nga lang ng products sa Macau kahapon eh so hanggang Macau nakakarating na sila.

And Now I can say I made a right decision why? Company is just 7 years at meron ng sariling building take note hindi nag rerent kung saan man. hectarya na lupain at 5 floors na building sa qave lang naman ang meron ang company. Why? Meron ng branches sa taiwan, abudhabi, singapore..etc. so isipin mo kung hindi matatag yun company eh bakit makakapasok sa ibang bansa lalo na sa dubai? Saka Filipino Owned company to worldclass db? Why? Friend ko yun asawa ng top1 consistent top1! Goodness kung may problema may invite need advise isang text lang andyan na.

Saka sobrang thankful ako sa grupo ko bukod sa yamanin na sila hindi pinababayaan yun nag uumpisa palang as in consistent sa pag tatanong kung may nabenta ka ba may prospect ka text mo ko tulungan kita. Kaya yun under ko namana ko din yun ugali na hanggat wala pa siyang team A at B focus muna ko sa kanya.


So for me MLM works. Pinagdasal ko din muna lahat ng desisyon ko kaya ayun may guidance naman.

[mrs.bee]

Ako naman super negative ko dati sa MLM yung bf ko dati na hubby ko na ngayon sya talaga yung mahilig magjoin sa mga MLM. Pero nung naging mag asawa kami since prefer namin na maging housewife ako kaya nagisip ako kung anong pwede kong gawin na pwede akong kumita kahit sa bahy lang. Then nung may friend kami na naginvite samin para umattend ng orientation medyo hesistant ako. Pero since pupuntahan nya na lang daw kami sa house kaya pumayag na rin ako.

Right timing lang siguro na makita ko [textspeak!] 1Bro nun. Tamang tama kaka start pa lang. Then nakita ko na maganda yung compensation plan sa discount naman sa mga prepaid products ang inooffer na service so why not di ba? Ayun napa join din ako. Then ang nakakatuwa since pwede akong magregister ng kahit ilang retailer kaya niregister ko halos buong angkan namin. At totoo nga lahat kami may discount na sa load. Yung iba dealership na rin yung kinuha. E di lahat kami dealer na ang nakakatuwa lalo natutulungan pa nila akong kumita.

I think dapat talaga before sumali sa MLM dapat malaman mo sa sarili mo kung anong product ang babagay sayo. At fapat yung magagamit mo din. Saka humanap ka rin ng team na tutulong sayo. Lucky kami ng asawa ko kasi close kami ng mga top members kaya nakakakuha kami ng advise sa kanila personally. Mas masarap kasing pakinggan yung mga advise lalo na sa mga taong naranasan na yung mga nararanasan mo. At syempre dapat legal yung company at hindi pera pera lang di ba?

[poetrytoprose]

ako naman, I've been invited numerous times sa MLM pero I never really bought it kasi first I'm not interested with the product.

Ang problema ko kasi, like when I was invited to do NuSkin, I had acne scars problem so if I sell it to others, others would not buy it kasi -- come on, ako nga di nga flawless. hahaha!

But right now, I found a product that I could really be proud to boast and sell kasi I've experienced it by buying it. This product naman din is what everybody loves: TRAVEL.

I mean come on, lahat naman loves holiday vacation and selling it through experience makes it so easy to sell!

Let me know if you want to hear more!

[eireen]

Hays, Networking. Malaki laki din nalugi ko dito bago ako makahanap ng company na talagang masasabi kong maganda ang complan. Madaming nagsulputan ngayon pero kailangan pa ding mamili. At long last Ive found this one.  Di nakakahiyang ipromote. 1 week lang kumita na kobawing bawi pa.

[inluvewithmikewesten]

Naku sis, naloko ako ng former officemate na umattend sa presentation sa Usana. I thought I would be interviewed for a legitimate part time job. Ayon I wasted 1 hour of my time para makinig sa kanila. And it's true mapilit sila, 3 yata sila na kumuyog sa akin. Pero I was firm na I was not interested tapos ang dami nila litanya. Tapos so former officemate sabi na naman gamitin ko na lang daw credit card and in month bawi ko daw!

And up to now sige pa ang text and PM sa akin sa Facebook. Ganito talaga nangyayari sa mga member ng MLM, nagpupumilit at nambubuwisit para makakuha ng members otherwise wala din sila kikitain. Ang akin, kung kumukita ka ng malaki and you have a good life, then congrats! Pero if someone says no just leave them alone!

[prettygretchen]

Proud royalista ako pero ako one year ako niligawan tapos ako na lumapit para mag pay in, bakit bongga yun sabon nila ginagamit ko at nabebenta ko pati kumikita pa ko. Hehe sobrang walang pilitan lang ako nga chill lang kasi ang samin hindi sa dami ng recruit mo yan, sa galing mo mag alaga ng downline mo ang dapat. Business na may puso kumbaga.

[chichi143]

Hays, Networking. Malaki laki din nalugi ko dito bago ako makahanap ng company na talagang masasabi kong maganda ang complan. Madaming nagsulputan ngayon pero kailangan pa ding mamili. At long last Ive found this one.  Di nakakahiyang ipromote. 1 week lang kumita na kobawing bawi pa.

can you tell me more about that sis?

hayss.ako din nga eh... balik pera lang nangyari sakin pagjoin ko sa Usana. si mama kasi ginawang pautang ibang products... that was our fault i know.

and masiyadong mabigat yong magshell out ka ng products every month :-(

buti sana kung may incoming pay ako na kayang magsupply nun or other source of income.
pero wala eh.

hays.  pero the products are very very good.

[tinafamd]

I joined usana 2 weeks ago even if i was having doubts about the business plan, since you needed to shell out a huge wad of cash. But, i really wanted to try the weightloss program and supplements, so i joined. 6 days after starting the program, i lost almost 3 kg without having any adverse effects. I was able to start at least 3 chubby girls to lose weight for their health. There are interested female hospital employees who might purchase the products because they have seen the effect on me. Plus, i realized that i would get a chance to meet new people through this experience. The lesson? Well, there are a couple. First, usana has a legitimate business plan. You don't work, you don't earn. So, you better start working by first knowing what your product is. The problem with people who are already in usana is that they are focusing more on the recruting aspect, and neglecting to highlight the beauty of the products. Yes, they are pricey, but useful. Which brings me to my second point: usana products are not for everyone, so determine if you will have a market before you enter the business. Think of it this way: usana supplements are like gucci bags. They are both quality products, and only a certain percentage of consumers can afford them. No need to persecute the company just because the products are expensive. Just don't buy them, but stop saying they are the Devil's products. Lastly, i find that investing that amount of money into a company promoting (overpriced?) Health products are a whole lot better than putting small amounts into companies that are slowly killing you. Your meals bought at Mcdo, Jollibee, Wendys, etc may cost less than 100, but have you ever considered what damage they are doing to your body? Anyway, this is just my opinion. I hope it helps a little in sorting your thoughts about mlm/networking/usana. Good night!

[inluvewithmikewesten]

Kasi ganun talaga ang turo sa kanila. In front of me sinabi ng 'Director' kuno na wag daw sasabihin na MLM kasi yong iba turned off agad once narinig yon.

Ako din sis kuntodo formal attire nag muk ap pa kasi nga 'Director' daw kakausap sa akin. Tapos si 'Director' naka jeans lang.

[tomatostellar]

^odk may nangyari na rin sa min ng friends ko parang ganyan, pero ang sabi party daw., tapos pinaupo kami tapos todo discuss,, nakalimutan ko na kung anong product

ganon nga daw, tsaka parang yung iba papasalihin ka lang, tapos sabihin, wag na mag worry sa pag recruit/discuss ng product, mag refer lang daw tapos ibang tao na pag discuss

not for everyone talaga ang MLM