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Re: DE LIMA and HUMAN RIGHTS
« Reply #260 on: March 15, 2017, 11:07:43 pm »
Pati INOSENTE nadadamay sa EJK? huh? noon pa yan ah. noon nga mas maraming inosente namamatay. tandang tanda ko pa..every night ko nalang napapanuod sa TV kung saan saan tinitira ng riding in tandem ang mga biktima nila kahit sa kalye, kahit maraming tao, at kahit may araw..yang mga karatula na yan, noon pa po yan, hindi na yan bago

True. Dati pa may ganyan. Uso na yan dati pa. However, just because "uso" na "dati" pa does not justify na hindi na dapat pansinin ngayon. We still need to be vigilant.

I do not believe na si Duterte may pakana ng mga yan, I hope though na this administration will do something about this. Of course, I do not expect na agad agad, but part of me is hoping na sana if not matigil e malessen.


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« Reply #261 on: March 17, 2017, 12:42:41 pm »
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you guys call those baseless accusations papaano magsasalita pa lang against dutz nila-label na as dilawan and as if namang pinakikinggan talaga yung mga sinasabi ng mga witnesses/trillanes lalo karamihan sa mga nasa pwesto takot kay dutz. yung milyones ni dutz hinarap nya ba hindi diba? unless him just saying wala siyang ganung pera is enough na sa inyo. LOL

on delima, tama lang makulong siya as long as theres enough evidence at tama yung process. if nagagawa niyong maniwala sa mga druglords na mali mali ang sinasabi bakit di niyo kayang maniwala kay lascanas na maayos sumagot, oh because si manny lang pwedeng gumamit ng spiritual shits sa senate?

me i dont just label supporters as blinded unless may ebidensya, and ayun ang nakikita ko sa karamihan ng supporters ni dutz dito. i expect more from gtalkers hindi yung facebooky replies. Thats the problem, imbes na pakinggan niyo yung criticisms sa admin iniisip niyo agad na makaLP kasi or dahil di nanalo si mar, lol ang babaw nun.. ang tinitignan namin yung takbo ng pilipinas, yung mga taong namamatay(are you really sure lahat yun kriminal?), yung issues na pangmatagalang makakasira sa bansa(hi friends from china).

listening to some people defending duterte , in comparison to delima and trillanes OMG!. First "1% hindi kayang tumbasan", saan galing yan sa numbeo?  Second, ilang taon na nga palang mayor si dutz? drug free or crime free ba ang davao, kumustsa murder rate? oh and also  how did duterte accomplished those feats again? Third (and im sure this will be a shocker for fanatics), you can criticize them both, why? because you're filipino citizens not duterte citizens.

Assuming may concrete evidence I can sleep kung makulong si delima/trillanes/pnoy/leni, e kayo kay dutz? :)
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« Reply #262 on: March 17, 2017, 02:52:16 pm »
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you guys call those baseless accusations papaano magsasalita pa lang against dutz nila-label na as dilawan and as if namang pinakikinggan talaga yung mga sinasabi ng mga witnesses/trillanes lalo karamihan sa mga nasa pwesto takot kay dutz. yung milyones ni dutz hinarap nya ba hindi diba? unless him just saying wala siyang ganung pera is enough na sa inyo. LOL

Pag galing kay Trillanes, kay Delima, talagang dilawan ang labas. Ilang beses na nila ginawa yan. Pero bakit ngayon pinipilit ng pinipilit? Nakikinig ka ba sa kwento ni Matobato at ni Lascanas? Pinakinggan sila pero kulang mga pinagsasabi nila. Si Matobato na hindi consistent ang pinagsasabi at walang makuhang solid proof, tapos si Lascanas na di na din maniwala sa sinasabi nya dahil nga pabago bago? Paano mo ihaharap sa korte yan? Wala naman pumipigil sa kanila ihabol sa korte, dun magsampa at least under oath lahat, umpisahan nila imbestigahan yung mga involved na PNP officials at hintayin matapos term ng presidente para wala na din immunity. Pero bakit gusto nila sh*tshow sa senado? Para lang may magawang kwento at drama? Nakakatawa nga naman kasi talaga kaya di tinuloy kasi, nakakatawa talaga.

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on delima, tama lang makulong siya as long as theres enough evidence at tama yung process. if nagagawa niyong maniwala sa mga druglords na mali mali ang sinasabi bakit di niyo kayang maniwala kay lascanas na maayos sumagot, oh because si manny lang pwedeng gumamit ng spiritual shits sa senate?

Oo tama lang talagang makulong sya. Dumaan naman sa tamang process di ba? Ano itong pakuloy nya political prisoner daw sya? Lol. Maniniwala sana kami kay Lascanas kung hindi sya nagsinungaling at nagsalita under oath nung una, pero sya nga duda sya sa mga ganun, ikaw pa kaya hindi ka magdududa? Paano mo paniniwalaan yun? Maayos ba sya sumagot? Well, sa sobrang ayos including yung pagkakasulat ng Diary nya, mas nagmukha syang di kapanipaniwala... again, nakakatawa labas nya.

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me i dont just label supporters as blinded unless may ebidensya, and ayun ang nakikita ko sa karamihan ng supporters ni dutz dito. i expect more from gtalkers hindi yung facebooky replies. Thats the problem, imbes na pakinggan niyo yung criticisms sa admin iniisip niyo agad na makaLP kasi or dahil di nanalo si mar, lol ang babaw nun.. ang tinitignan namin yung takbo ng pilipinas, yung mga taong namamatay(are you really sure lahat yun kriminal?), yung issues na pangmatagalang makakasira sa bansa(hi friends from china).

Walang masama mag criticize, basta may sense ang criticism at alam mo ang motive ng criticism. Pero higit sa lahat, walang saysay makinig sa criticism ng "Hater" or may sariling pang interest. Sira ang credibility. Kung si Delima na involved sa drug business, ay iccriticize ang war on drugs, anong credibility nya? Ganun din sa hater. Yung mga hater, walang saysay makinig sa criticism nila kasi yun lang ang alam... ang maghanap ng i-criticize. Di ba hater ka?

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listening to some people defending duterte , in comparison to delima and trillanes OMG!. First "1% hindi kayang tumbasan", saan galing yan sa numbeo?  Second, ilang taon na nga palang mayor si dutz? drug free or crime free ba ang davao, kumustsa murder rate? oh and also  how did duterte accomplished those feats again? Third (and im sure this will be a shocker for fanatics), you can criticize them both, why? because you're filipino citizens not duterte citizens.

We are a filipino citizen, and yes pwede kami mag criticize both. Pero wala din saysay kung puro criticize lang alam, meron kasi magaling lang mag criticize, pero wala naman solution. (Hello Leni!). Kung masaya ka mag criticize both sa kanila, then go walang pipigil sayo same as sa mga taong gusto din i-defend si Duterte dahil tingin nila yun din ang makakatulong sa bansa. Parehas din. Criticize ka lang hanggang gusto mo. Defend lang sila kung gusto nila. Wala pakielamanan?

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Assuming may concrete evidence I can sleep kung makulong si delima/trillanes/pnoy/leni, e kayo kay dutz? :)

Yeah, Lahat ng may kasalanan dapat makulong. At makakatulog din kami basta patunayan at hindi yung kwentong "MATOBATO GENTLEMAN" lang ni Psy ang mangyayari. Baka puro "Doesn't have to be true, just need to make it look like one" lang ang mangyari. lol.
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« Reply #263 on: March 17, 2017, 04:28:31 pm »
you guys call those baseless accusations papaano magsasalita pa lang against dutz nila-label na as dilawan and as if namang pinakikinggan talaga yung mga sinasabi ng mga witnesses/trillanes lalo karamihan sa mga nasa pwesto takot kay dutz. yung milyones ni dutz hinarap nya ba hindi diba? unless him just saying wala siyang ganung pera is enough na sa inyo. LOL

Karamihan ng nasa pwesto takot kay dutz? Seriously? Pano mo nasabi?

Eh ano ba yung BPI incident before the election hindi ba sabi ng BPI walang ganung amount? At sino ang maniniwala sa isang excel sheet as evidence lang?

on delima, tama lang makulong siya as long as theres enough evidence at tama yung process. if nagagawa niyong maniwala sa mga druglords na mali mali ang sinasabi bakit di niyo kayang maniwala kay lascanas na maayos sumagot, oh because si manny lang pwedeng gumamit ng spiritual shits sa senate?

Tanong ko lang sino ba ang nag pakulong kay delima? Hindi ba ang kataas taasang hukom?

me i dont just label supporters as blinded unless may ebidensya, and ayun ang nakikita ko sa karamihan ng supporters ni dutz dito. i expect more from gtalkers hindi yung facebooky replies. Thats the problem, imbes na pakinggan niyo yung criticisms sa admin iniisip niyo agad na makaLP kasi or dahil di nanalo si mar, lol ang babaw nun.. ang tinitignan namin yung takbo ng pilipinas, yung mga taong namamatay(are you really sure lahat yun kriminal?), yung issues na pangmatagalang makakasira sa bansa(hi friends from china).

Hindi ba panglalabel din yan, ano ba para sayo ang "facebooky" comments? Pasensiya na pero marami akong fb friends na matatalino na nagcocoment sa facebook. So ano ang facebooky?

Walang masama mag criticize pero teka lang lahat ba nung namatay ay EJK na agad?  Napatunayan na ba yang claim na ang 7-8k ay puro extra judicial? Isa pa sinai na mismo ni Dutz na walang state sponsored killings.

listening to some people defending duterte , in comparison to delima and trillanes OMG!. First "1% hindi kayang tumbasan", saan galing yan sa numbeo?  Second, ilang taon na nga palang mayor si dutz? drug free or crime free ba ang davao, kumustsa murder rate? oh and also  how did duterte accomplished those feats again? Third (and im sure this will be a shocker for fanatics), you can criticize them both, why? because you're filipino citizens not duterte citizens.

Sinong may sabi perfect(drug free/crime free) ang Davao City?

So kung dinepensahan si Dutz fanatic na. Kaya nga binoto namin susupportahan namin hangga't pro Philippines ang hanggad niya. Kaya naman kasi agitated karamihan sa supporters ni dutz dahil sa mga destabilization plot na yan. Kaya natural lang sa amin maging protective.

Assuming may concrete evidence I can sleep kung makulong si delima/trillanes/pnoy/leni, e kayo kay dutz? :)

The likes of matobato and lascanas as witnesses? Asa ka pa.  ;D
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« Reply #264 on: March 18, 2017, 06:05:34 am »
I was watching a video of a Pinoy New Yorker sa Facebook. Apparently, Loida Lewis and company were having fund raisers for Matobato and Lascanas. And maraming Pinoy daw na pumunta pero initially hindi daw alam kung para saan yung fund raisers. Loida, apparently, is using her connections to kind of bully the hard working Pinoys para daw umattend ng fund raising.

I can't verify the validity of the report pero hindi malayo.
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« Reply #265 on: March 20, 2017, 04:55:53 pm »
listening to some people defending duterte , in comparison to delima and trillanes OMG!. First "1% hindi kayang tumbasan", saan galing yan sa numbeo?  Second, ilang taon na nga palang mayor si dutz? drug free or crime free ba ang davao, kumustsa murder rate? oh and also  how did duterte accomplished those feats again? Third (and im sure this will be a shocker for fanatics), you can criticize them both, why? because you're filipino citizens not duterte citizens.

sis or bro, wag masyadong maging pilosopo. Ikaw nalang bahala kung ano gusto mo paniwalaan LOL. You can always check davao city and their facilities there. based naman sa mga sagot mo, parang may verdict ka na sa duterte administration.

Sa tingin nyo, kung ginawa ni delima ng maayos trabaho nya, magpa-progress ang drug business sa bilibid? I am not a legal expert but lahat naman tayo may common sense.

 Now, on the drug lord as witnesses. Sigurado akong hinde lang dahil sa testimonies ng mga druglords kaya nakulong si delima. Syempre, may mga corroborating evidence yan like written documents, photos, whatever is applicable, which I?m sure were presented at court. Ang senate hearing, hinde po yun ang pinagbasehan ng court para magbigay ng decision sa kaso ni delima. Kaya nga sana yang sina matobato at lasca?as, kung may legal merit yung mga pinagdadakdak nila sa senado, dumiretso na sila ng korte. Pwedeng hinde makasohan si duterte kasi president pa sya (I think) but for sure, pwedeng kasohan yung iba pang kasabwat kono. It would make the allegations stronger. Bakit gusto nila yung naka televised na senate hearings? Wala naman yang bearing sa legal decisions na gagawin ng korte. Isa pa, kung ang basis lang ng warrant  of arrest is yung oral testimony, ikukulong na din sana si lasca?as kasi umamin syang may illegal silang pinagpapatay di ba? Pero ayun wala naman syang warrant of arrest so far. Kaya siguro malakas loob umamin kono kasi alam naman nyang walang corroborating evidence yung testimony nya. Hay it?s just all for publicity. Political circus.

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« Reply #266 on: March 20, 2017, 11:47:38 pm »

and listening to some people defending delima and trillanes, in comparison to duterte. OMG! ang public service na nagawa na ni duterte all these years, kahit 1% hinde kayang tumbasan ng dalawang yan, based on their accomplishments on their respective fields. wag nyong sabihin walang point of comparison. delima failed to fulfill her job as DOJ secretary. just check bilibid and our prisons. pero si duterte as mayor of davao city? do you ever wonder why he is sincerely loved by all the people of Davao? and really, really listen to them everytime they explain why?

Slow clap to you sis Springblosom, very well said, hindi ko din alam bat sila nangagalaiti kay Digong samantalang ang dami na nyang nagawa na kapaki-pakinabang kumpara sa dalawang nabanggit lol.
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« Reply #267 on: March 30, 2017, 05:18:46 pm »
Super agreeee! karamihan ng nasa pwesto ngayon takot kay Dutz...kasi lalabas na unti unti mga baho nila..Hindi takot po tawag doon...INGGIT KAY DUTZ.. ;)

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« Reply #268 on: April 01, 2017, 04:09:06 pm »
wala na bang drugs at crime sa davao city?

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« Reply #269 on: April 03, 2017, 11:24:08 am »
^ Wala bang hindi disente sa LP? lol!
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« Reply #270 on: April 06, 2017, 08:14:01 am »
sabit na naman si De Lima at Trillanes  ;D

Sunod sunod na ang pagkabuko ng kanilang maitim na balak. Karma! Naku talaga bigti, as in nanghinayang ako sa boto ko kay De Lima.

Karamihan mga LP(senators) ang binoto ko noong nakaraang election.  :-[

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« Reply #271 on: April 26, 2017, 06:25:17 am »
for his supporters bawal siya icriticize. only praises.

Ay OO naman understood na yan dapat sampalataya lang hindi pwede criticism. Pero kapag dilawan dapat batikusin at sisihin sa kapalpakan ng present admin.  ;D Kapag may positive praise to Almighty agad pero kapag may kapalpakan ginawa dilawan ang dapat sisihin or yung past admin.

wala na bang drugs at crime sa davao city?

Sayang hindi ko na nakita yung kailan lang na may patayan, tapos may fraud pa or mga hacker :D Pero nga diba safest city nga raw kasi.  :D

http://time.com/tag/leila-de-lima/

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/04/24/17/duterte-de-lima-on-time-list-is-part-of-good-vs-evil-narrative-analysts

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« Reply #272 on: April 26, 2017, 08:38:00 am »
I kennat!! Sinasampalataya ko si De Lima

De Lima admits petition not signed before notary public

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/890258/de-lima-admits-petition-not-signed-before-notary-public#ixzz4fJNPNAzW

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« Reply #273 on: April 26, 2017, 01:23:48 pm »
^sis wag mo ng arukin si delima. frailties of a woman hahaha.
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« Reply #274 on: July 24, 2017, 03:00:18 pm »

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« Reply #275 on: July 26, 2017, 01:58:02 pm »
hinihintay ko yung magiging tugon ng human rights doon sa hamon ni digong about sa mga marawi people na gusto daw silipin yung mga bahay nila.

sabi ni digong kung talagang iniinsist ng human right commission na paglabag sa karapatan pang tao yung ginagawang pagbabawal ng mga military sa mga tiga marawi na pumasok sa loob ng city, okay na daw as per digong na papasok ang gustong pumasok na tiga marawi but at all expense ng human rights commission. sila ang mag lilead, sila ang gagawa ng strategy sila ang mag poprotect sa mga tao. walang supporta manggagaling sa military. nag response or nag comment na ba kaya si gascon?
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« Reply #277 on: August 22, 2017, 08:39:54 pm »
Seryoso ba yung nag request ng furlough si De Lima para makabisita sa wake ni Kian? Malapit na mag complete attendance yung LP sa burol ni Kian ha.
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« Reply #278 on: August 22, 2017, 09:01:38 pm »
^ Wala namang problema. She's one of the few people na lumalaban para maprevent yung ganyang mga kaso, magtaka ka kung pro-admins ang bumisita because they know sila mismo kasama sa mga dahilan kaya nangyari yan.

Just shows gaano kapalpak ang tokhang at kawalang kwenta ang current admin. Ngayon fulll force sila sa pagsira sa image ng biktima para lang di masira yung image ng war on drugs, buti na lang may cctv sa case na ito pero papaano kaya yung mga nakaraang "nanlaban" cases?

Ironic lang bobotante yung parents niya..
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« Reply #279 on: August 23, 2017, 02:34:14 pm »
Seryoso ba yung nag request ng furlough si De Lima para makabisita sa wake ni Kian? Malapit na mag complete attendance yung LP sa burol ni Kian ha.

Walang problema, kahit nga si Binay bumisita dun. Pinagkaiba lang hindi nakakulong si Binay, saka pwede rin naman magbago ang tao. Baka napagmuni muni nya rin sa loob na may kasalanan din sya na dahil sangkot sya sa Puno't dulo ng pagdami ng droga sa bansa na nagugat kaya nagka War on Drugs at nadamay si Kian.
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