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kaiz

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greenarrowbabe

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« Reply #101 on: May 10, 2015, 07:31:42 am »
^ tapos sasabihin ng mga members, warning lang naman yan wala pang napapatunayan na scam talaga.

in the end, kapag sila naloko, who will they blame?  :-\

iampennylane

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« Reply #102 on: May 11, 2015, 08:29:58 am »
Kaya naman pala todo balita yung ABSCBN na scam yung Emgoldex eh may pinopromote palang silang GOLDXTREME lol sobrang copycat ng Emgoldex yung marketing plan, pinalabas sa Kabuhayang Swak na Swak :D O sige na kayo na :) Kelan ba mawawala crab mentality ng mga pinoy.

iam.Arianna

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« Reply #103 on: May 11, 2015, 08:31:57 am »
ff. this thread 😃
for me HINDI po scam ang Emgoldex

iampennylane

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« Reply #104 on: May 11, 2015, 08:59:15 am »
^alam ng mga members yan sis. Unang una, nung pinalabas ng abs yung balita nung Feb about emgoldex being a scam, may pinakita silang ofw na "nascam" kuno. Ang sabi niya, nascam nga daw sya and dahil daw dun eh iniwan na sya ng pamilya nya? Seryoso, iniwan kagad? :D Tapos patawa tawa pa sya nung iniinterview, ni wala kang makitang galit o anuman. Tapos di nya rin masabi kung saang team sya and kung magkano talaga yung ininvest nya.

diann28

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« Reply #105 on: May 11, 2015, 12:07:46 pm »
tama naman kayo... na di scam ang emgoldex. or ano man networking. pero yun iba tao ang nag iiscam sa mga nag iinvest. di ko nilalahat ah. may mga tao talaga na pag nakahawak na ng malaki halaga natutukso na. parang sa paluwagan. may mga tao pag nakuha na pera nila. di na sila mag huhulog. yun lang naman eh opinion ko lang.

Yula

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« Reply #106 on: May 11, 2015, 01:46:55 pm »
Masyado na ako naging skeptic since lahat ng plan ko salihan eh sabay sabay binibigyan ng warning at pinatitigil ng SEC.Agree ako sa mga sinabi ng mga sis natin sa above posts.

Hindi malabong pedeng gamitin ang name lang ng company para makapahloko or makapanira ng kapwa MLM.

Ang malabo lang bakit ayaw magpalita nung mga nasabi na nascam.

Anyways @ sis pennylane

Tinignan ko sinabi mong GOLDXTREME .Haha oo nga ano parehas na parehas nga sa emgoldex pero mas mababa investment/membership fee. Pero yun lang kaya siguro hindi takot kasi may office daw tapos fineature ng ABS CBN sa Kabuhayang Swak na Swak.

Kung yun naman gawin ng emgoldex wala na siguro problema eh noh

Pero hanggang ngaun wala pa rin ako sinasalihan nakakatakot ang laki ng mawawalang pera at pano mo ba mavverify na yung tao eh connected talaga sa MLM company or isa sa mga scammer na nagpapanggap lang diba mga sis :(

iampennylane

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« Reply #107 on: May 11, 2015, 02:17:39 pm »
^true sis, marami talaga gumagawa. Kaya we always remind them na sa trusted lang nila makipag transact. Anyway kayo na humusga mga sis kung bakit patuloy na sinisiraan and Emgoldex dito, nung feb binalita din ng GMA yung scam daw emgoldex pero the next day binura din nila kagad yung video sa website nila. Atsaka please lang ha, yung gold na inoofer nila, may masabi lang na may products lol. Again, hindi lahat ng SEC registered at porke may office dito sa Pinas eh di na scam, http://screencast.com/t/2BFcuAzcxFT yan ata ang mukang scam, ni packaging di man lang ayusin parang tingi tingi lang sa bangketa.

iampennylane

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« Reply #108 on: May 12, 2015, 06:56:43 am »
I just want to share this :)

 Dear Karen Davila, Zen Hernandez and the Producers of ABS-CBN:
by Raul Laguitan

On May 8, 2015, I saw your video broadcast of your Bandila piece about Emgoldex, entitled, "How Emgoldex recruiters scam victims." This was a very bold statement. You all had the confidence in the world to spread this news. The statement and newscast caught my attention because it was a strongly worded title and left no room for doubt. It directly proclaims that Emgoldex is a scam operation.

You came with this conclusion after broadcasting the voice of a certain "Edgar" over telephone, who complained that he was scammed by someone after handing over his cash. This "Edgar" dude did not provide his last name nor showed a picture of his face. He hid under the cloak of anonymity. The fact that he was hiding his identity bolsters my suspicion that his credibility maybe in question. I can't wait to see a formal complaint from him. In any event, he was content to use your media to blast off his complaint.

In the same broadcast, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) claims that there are numerous complaints against Emgoldex, but you and the SEC fail to identify the other "numerous" complaints. You did not say "alleged complaints." Then you get the reaction of the SEC chair, who proclaims, on the basis of the single phone call from "Edgar" that Emgoldex "definitely" is a scam operation and that it is now coordinating with other government agencies to launch an investigation.

That was your story. Sadly, however, you failed to fulfill the basic tenets of responsible and ethical journalism.

First, you never verified the identity of "Edgar" other than to say that he was an OFW from South Korea.

Second, you did not attempt to seek other people who could corroborate that what "Edgar" complained of was truthful. You wanted the word out as quickly as possible without talking to others who may know "Edgar" and who could have corroborated his statements.

Third, you relied on Edgar's proclamation to conclude that Emgoldex recruiters are scamming victims. I can tell you that I am an Emgoldex client and my sponsor has NOT scammed me.

Fourth, you did not get to the "source" from Emgoldex to prove or disprove that Emgoldex is a scam operation. That is another sad news.
My take on your newscast is this: You rushed to judgment without verifying facts, obtaining corroborating evidence, and seeking the truth.
The basic tenets of ethical journalism is to seek out, within your limits, the truth and provide accuracy in reporting. While you cannot always guarantee "truth", but getting the facts right is the cardinal principle of journalism. It is obvious that your story lacks the necessary facts and evidence to substantiate your and the SEC's allegations.

You should always strive for accuracy, give all the relevant facts you have and ensure that they have been checked. If you cannot corroborate information, you should have said so in your newscast. You did not. Never heard it. You, as a respected media organization, collectively have failed in this basic principle.

Your story also lacks fairness and impartiality. Most stories have two sides. While you are under no obligation to present every side in every piece, your story should be balanced and add context. Impartial reporting builds trust and confidence. I am extremely disappointed that you also failed in this important journalism principle.

But I have some good news for you all. Emgoldex, as an online business entity, is NOT a scam. I own or manage at least 7 individual accounts which are progressing at different table-levels within the Emgoldex marketing plan. See photos I uploaded here. These accounts are RL1 through RL7. I started in mid-March,2015; One of the accounts is already showing profits. And yes, contrary to the suggestion that there is no product involved in Emgoldex, there is a product. There is an option to buy and sell gold in minimal quantities, from 1 gram up to 100 grams.
Here are some basic facts that would help complete your story: There are thousands of your countrymen in the Philippines and abroad, in many countries, who are satisfied clients of Emgoldex, making a whole lot of money from what they have seen in their lives. There are police officers and military men in Philippine uniforms who are clients and who have turned to Emgoldex to supplement their measly incomes. There are government officials in the provinces and local levels who have joined Emgoldex and are reaping the rewards of Emgoldex.

There are many stories of OFWs who have abandoned their jobs abroad and have returned home after earning substantial income from Emgoldex. Don't you think their voices need to be heard to get a balanced equation of your story?

Please attempt to seek these individuals and get their side of the story. Their stories are posted in social media, in YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram. They are all over the internet. A simple click of the mouse and your friend Google would trace their videos and writings.

At least GMA-7 got their story right on March 28, 2015. They interviewed a group of OFWs in Kuwait and shared their Emgoldex experiences. All claim they made a ton of money. No one claimed foul. No one reported they got scammed by Emgoldex. You can glean from their eyes that they were all happy and that they deserved what they have prayed for -- to earn a better living for themselves and for their families. I was not surprised to hear their stories.

Please also knock on the doors of Emgoldex's headquarters in Munich, Germany and their administrative offices in Dubai, UAE to get the story straight from its officers. ABS-CBN has resources and pool of reporters around the world to get to these offices.

You will not find an office or a business entity in the Philippines because Emgoldex has no such offices. It is operating as an online portal; It is NOT in the business of selling securities and therefore it is NOT required to register with the Securities and Exchange Commission. As an online portal of buying and selling gold, it is operating within applicable international and local e-commerce laws. Just like other booming online businesses from around the globe which have set up online shops to advance their products, goods and services.

Have you wondered why the governments of Japan, Malaysia, South Korea, Taiwan and many other countries have allowed Emgoldex to thrive and help its clients become financially independent?
Has it ever crossed your minds, that maybe, Emgoldex is a different networking company from others whom you have compared to and which have collapsed in the past?

Have you allowed any hint that maybe there could be more positive aspects to this story that you are potentially missing?
Have you taken a pause and asked yourselves, "Wait a minute, why are so many claiming to have earned P180,000 pesos? How true are their claims? "

The challenge for you is how you will act moving forward. The damage has been done. You have hurt thousands of hard working people and their families who have benefited and are continuing to benefit from the rewards and bonuses from Emgoldex.

A sign of professional and responsible journalism is the ability to hold yourselves accountable. When you commit errors, which to me you did, you must correct them and your expressions of regret must be sincere.
Under these circumstances, you should provide remedies when you are unfair.
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Credits to the rightful owner

fionnah325

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Re: EMGOLDEX TOTOO BA TO?
« Reply #109 on: May 12, 2015, 02:09:55 pm »
PWEDE PO bang 1800 dito?yong pinakamababa?at magkano ang balik sayo?

iampennylane

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« Reply #110 on: May 12, 2015, 02:29:14 pm »
^P1042 sis ang pinakamababa :D that's for 1 share :) ang rewards mo nyan after exit is P5000 in 1-3 months :) depende sa team.

j.adore

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« Reply #111 on: May 12, 2015, 02:48:01 pm »
For the supporters, can you please show how Php1k would generate interest in 1 to 3 months? If gold is the product, can you also show the correlation between the 1k and the gold market within that time period?

fionnah325

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« Reply #112 on: May 12, 2015, 02:55:54 pm »
@ianpennylane: hala ang tagal pala ng balik 1-3 months hehe nakakinip pag ganyan hehhehe

iampennylane

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« Reply #113 on: May 12, 2015, 03:08:04 pm »
^^sis yung 1k na yung eh yung mga hindi kaya kumuha ng solo account na worth P36500, so pinaghahati hatian nila, if ganyan po automatic cash ang rewards nyan kasi po mahirap hati hatiin yung gold :D

^sis that's the maximum timeframe :) depende sa team mo yan. Kasi yung ibang members nakakaexit in 2 weeks :D Pag naglagay ka ba ng 1k sa banko, kikita ng 5k in 3 months? Or kahit na isang taon? :D

j.adore

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« Reply #114 on: May 12, 2015, 03:56:59 pm »
Hindi mahirap hatiin ang gold tunaw tunaw sa Bulacan pwede ::) Kung may 1k na pinakamababa, dapat meron din available na earnings kahit maliit na gold piece.

Ulitin ko yung tanong, paano niyo maipapakita na lumalago yung pera na pinapasok dito? Saan din mahahanap yung results kung gusto mo makita pera mo habang naghihintay ng rewards? May pagkukumpara ba sa gold market?

Halos lahat ng nababasa ko tungkol dito puro explain lang na hindi scam at nakakuha naman ng pera. Pag pumasok ka x amount tapos pag labas mo xxx amount. Puro ganon lang.

Where are the financial facts to supplement the investment scheme?

iampennylane

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« Reply #115 on: May 12, 2015, 06:31:13 pm »

happynlove

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« Reply #116 on: May 13, 2015, 12:11:01 am »
The way I see this is pinapaikot ng emgoldex all investors' money, parang pooled fund, then invest in gold - instead of shares, gold ang tntrade. tama ba mga sis? pero aside from individual investors, may companies din ba na nagiinvest sakanila? like diba sa stocks, companies invest in other companies by buying their shares?

j.adore

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« Reply #117 on: May 13, 2015, 08:05:27 pm »
From your link:
You need to issue an order for the purchase of an investment gold which amounts to 7000,00 € and pay a coupon order to purchase an investment bars.

Coupon-order includes: 1 gram gold bar, a prepayment for the purchase of bars in a weight under 100 grams, a payment of a support  service and Internet services - 20.00 € per cycle.

But there is current prices of gold in their site:
2015-05-13 PM
1g.  =  34.21 EUR
1oz. = 1064.00 EUR

Bakit fixed ang bayad at fixed ang makukuha kung nagffluctuate ang value ng gold?

Here's a 1month chart of gold prices http://goldprice.org/NewCharts/gold/images/gold_30_day_g_s_EUR.png?0.19037317065522075
So dun sa mga as fast as 2 weeks, di ba dapat loss instead of gain?

And the site you provided specifically states na internet shop daw na located sa Seychelles. What kind of security is provided if it's like online shopping? Anong mapanghahawakan to ensure babalik pera?

Nagstart na din order in the US against these https://www.sec.state.ma.us/sct/current/sctemgoldex/EmGoldex-et-al-Complaint-Docket-No-2014-0056.pdf

happynlove

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« Reply #118 on: May 13, 2015, 09:48:16 pm »
^ the pdf attached is helpful sis. late last year lang yan inissue ah.

missreese

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« Reply #119 on: May 16, 2015, 01:14:53 am »
pagkakaalam ko... legal ang emgoldex sa ibang bansa.. yes sa ibang bansa.. pero dito sa pinas ko sure, di ko alam kung registered sila sa SEC.

may nakita akong post about emgoldex... picture ng lalaki sa BMW then may isa pang babae naman na naka BMW din.. Yun nga lang same PLATE NUMBER :)

For me, mas maigi aralin ko yung Stocks kesa sa ganitong networking. wala din kasi akong power at tiyaga magrecruit.

 

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