Author Topic: Is LOVE enough to stay in the Marriage?  (Read 4981 times)

Xoxolol

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Re: Is LOVE enough to stay in the Marriage?
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2014, 10:51:45 am »
My partner is also like that. Pag nag ggrocery kami, kumukuha siya ng gusto niya, pag ako kumukuha, ayaw niya or tatanungin pa niya bakit or para saan. And he gets extremely angry pag hindi nasusunod ang gusto niya. Bigla na lang siyang magmumura at magsasalita ng kung ano ano. Nakakapagod makipag-argue talaga. Buti ngayon, I'm already working, hindi tulad dati, kailangan makipag-away pa ako para makahingi lang ng allowance.


outandaboutph

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Re: Is LOVE enough to stay in the Marriage?
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2014, 03:41:33 pm »
I love my husband but hindi ko kinaya.

macblush

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Re: Is LOVE enough to stay in the Marriage?
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2014, 06:20:41 am »
^ Bakit naman sis hindi mo na kinaya?

Ako din minsan iniisip ko hiwalayan na lang sya for good. Pero hindi kaya ng Puso ko. I dunno kung baka nakasanayan ko na lang ang ganitong way of life kasama si hubby. Ayaw ko kasi ng broken Marriage, kaya kahit maging feeling miserable ang pakiramdam ko. I decided pa din to stay.  Minsan nakakasawa ang paulit ulit na pangako na ending ganun pa din naman, tulad ng sinabi ni sis Maiandra-  you do get what you tolerate. Ok, I admit sometimes dahil nakakapagod na makipag argue ng paulit ulit at almost the same nonsense stuff lang nman minsan. Kaya hinahayaan ko na lang. Nakakasawa. Sana nga ang Love ko ay sapat para makaya ko ang till now and forever na sumpaan. :(

outandaboutph

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Re: Is LOVE enough to stay in the Marriage?
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2014, 09:40:22 am »
Maraming dahilan - in-laws and hubby ko mismo. I left him last week, hindi naman totally na sinabi ko na maghiwalay na kami but sabi ko sa parents ko muna ako uuwi. Actually, ako pang mas nasaktan sa decision ko, ako iyong umiiyak kapag nagigising ako wala sa tabi ko husband ko, worried ako if anong lagay niya. Pero si hubby, kampante lang, magtetext every other day paisa isa siguro. Am actually doing this for myself kasi ang laking T ko na talaga kung hindi pa ako makahalata na hindi ako mahal ng husband ko. Pineprepare ko lang din sarili ko, masanay na wala siya. Hindi madali, parang luka luka lang ako maiiyak kahit saan pero I know na someday, hindi na ganito kasakit.

glamorosa_09

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Re: Is LOVE enough to stay in the Marriage?
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2014, 01:59:51 pm »
@Macblush

Posting here the behavioral changes which you might want to look for in your husband. This was outlined by Lundy Bancrof, an abuser counselor for more than 15 years.

The change happens for a period of time. But then he also warned the wives that only a minority of his clients makes lasting changes. If 1 out of 10 ang magbago sa program nya, it's worthwhile na raw.

In the end, ikaw pa rin ang magdedefine what "changes" you want to see.

So here it is:

How to know if he has really changed:

Has he learned to treat your opinions with respect, even when they differ strongly from his?

Is he accepting your right to express anger to him, especially when it involves his history of mistreating you?

Is he respecting your right to freedom and independence? Does that include refraining from all interference with your friendships and giving up the demand to always know where you are and whom you are with?

Has he stopped making excuses for his treatment of you, including not using your behavior as an excuse for his?

Is he being respectful about sex, applying no pressure and engaging in no guilt trips?

Has he stopped cheating or flirting with other women, or using other behaviors that keep you anxious that he will stray?

Does he listen to your side in arguments without interrupting, and then make a serious effort to respond thoughtfully to your points, even if he doesn’t like them?

Have you been free to raise your grievances, new or old, without retaliation from him?

Has he stopped talking about his abuse as if it were an accident and begun to acknowledge that he used it to control you?

Is he actually responding to your grievances and doing something about them (for example, changing the way he behaves toward your children)?

Has he greatly reduced or eliminated his use of controlling behaviors (such as sarcasm, rolling his eyes, loud disgusted sighs, talking over you, using the voice of ultimate authority, and other demonstrations of disrespect or superiority) during conversations and arguments?

When he does slip back into controlling behavior, does he take you seriously when you complain about it and keep working on improving?

Is he being consistent and responsible in his behavior, taking into account how his actions affect you without having to be constantly reminded?

Is he acting noticeably less demanding, selfish, and self-centered?

Is he being fair and responsible about money, including allowing you to keep your own assets in your own name?

Has he stopped any behaviors that you find threatening or intimidating?

Has he significantly expanded his contribution to household and child-rearing responsibilities and stopped taking your domestic work for granted or treating you like a servant?

Has he begun supporting your strengths rather than striving to undermine them?

Have you had any major angry arguments with him in which he has shown a new willingness to conduct himself nonabusively?



For sure kung puro 'abuse moments' yung mangyayari, it's easy to make a decision to break away. But then there's also the 'good moments' where he appears kind and loving, and when he professes his love to you. And these moments spark some hope. The thing is, there will always be those 'good moments' alongside the 'abuse moments.' Holding on to one, means holding on the other one.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2014, 02:02:10 pm by glamorosa_09 »

lady_avoidant

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Re: Is LOVE enough to stay in the Marriage?
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2014, 05:49:32 am »
curious ako sa situation ni sis macblush.. noong mag bf/gf ba kayo e walang konting hint na ganyan pala siya sa marriage niyo?? may napapansin ka naba sa kanya dati pero pinag walang bahala mo lang?? ilang years kayo as bf gf prior to marriage??

macblush

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Re: Is LOVE enough to stay in the Marriage?
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2014, 10:31:50 pm »
curious ako sa situation ni sis macblush.. noong mag bf/gf ba kayo e walang konting hint na ganyan pala siya sa marriage niyo?? may napapansin ka naba sa kanya dati pero pinag walang bahala mo lang?? ilang years kayo as bf gf prior to marriage??
No sis, walang kahit anong bakas ng hint, for me before he was my ideal man. Sobrang Jive kami sa lahat. We are 2 yrs as bf/gf. Bago kami nagdecide na magpakasal. Pero dahil I worked overseas so hindi kami masyado nagsama physically. During vacation lang kami together. Pero we  communicate everyday walang mintis. Everything is perfect lalo na nong LDR pa kami. Sobrang ok kami sa lahat. Lahat ng dreams and plans namin sa buhay ay parehas. .

 Magkasundo at agree kami almost sa lahat ng bagay. Kaya nga we end up together and we got married. Pero diko alam what went wrong ibang iba na nung nagsama na kami sa isang bubong. Everything changed. Parang hindi sya yong dati. Parang before I lived with dreams lang sa kanya. nung dipa kami kasal. Nakaka gulat.

maiandra

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Re: Is LOVE enough to stay in the Marriage?
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2014, 04:15:49 am »
Sis macblush, Please value yourself! Your husband is abusive and narcissistic. Though not physically, he is verbally very abusive and hostile. lahat ibblame sayo. in the end, it's not worth it to lose your sanity and peace of mind.

Girltalker2

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Re: Is LOVE enough to stay in the Marriage?
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2014, 12:14:59 pm »
My partner is also like that. Pag nag ggrocery kami, kumukuha siya ng gusto niya, pag ako kumukuha, ayaw niya or tatanungin pa niya bakit or para saan. And he gets extremely angry pag hindi nasusunod ang gusto niya. Bigla na lang siyang magmumura at magsasalita ng kung ano ano. Nakakapagod makipag-argue talaga. Buti ngayon, I'm already working, hindi tulad dati, kailangan makipag-away pa ako para makahingi lang ng allowance.

He does not act like a responsible adult. Para syang spoiled brat na bata.

curious ako sa situation ni sis macblush.. noong mag bf/gf ba kayo e walang konting hint na ganyan pala siya sa marriage niyo?? may napapansin ka naba sa kanya dati pero pinag walang bahala mo lang?? ilang years kayo as bf gf prior to marriage??

One thing natutunan ko kasi dapat ma-put sa test ang BF/GF relationship ninyo before you can decide to marry. Hindi puede laging nasa cloud 9 kayo at ayos lahat.  Minsan may pagsubok, and dito mo ma-t-test ang ugali ng kasama mo. At her/his worse, dapat mo syang makitang ganun and doon mo masasabi kung acceptable ba iyan for you.

Learning din ito sa mga ikakasal.  Hindi all the time masaya. So watch our for these hints habang mag BF/GF palang kayo.  Hindi naman sa sasadyain mo magka problem, I am sure circumstances will arise. yung gutom kayo, pagod, then urgently meron kelangan habulin, hindi nagworkout... etc etc. How are these things handled by the two of you?  Kapag may nagkamali, sobrang naninisi ba yung isa, kaya mo ba i-take?




 

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