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exotic_beauty

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #300 on: January 30, 2014, 06:18:33 am »
Maybe yun mga rape issues (granted that there was) 9 years ago were the height of street boys kasikatan na may mga willing din. Just my POV.

Concentrate muna sa
 current issue...

insekyora

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #301 on: January 30, 2014, 06:22:25 am »
^^  baka kaya ganon si DC e stress at natrauma kasi na rape nga daw sya.  :P

lol. oh sa bagay, baka  nalilito siya at nahihiwagaan sa bilis ng pagkaka-rape sa kanya? 4 seconds kasi kasama pa dun pagtanggal ni vhong ng shorts niya

junepets

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #302 on: January 30, 2014, 06:23:04 am »
I just noticed sa video na parang tinulak siya ng guy papasok sa elevator and hinatak naman siya ni bernice ng palabas na. parang ayaw niya na sumama.

This may support yun sabi ni Vhong na nagsorry si DC sa kanya..
Siguro di nya expect na ganun ang gagawin...

^,^^ ang kukukulet nyo sis... ;)

insekyora

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #303 on: January 30, 2014, 06:25:21 am »

1. From the two minutes difference that vhong went up, and deniece was seen down in the lobby, ( minus pa yung time ni vhong sa pag akyat sa 2nd floor using the elevator), ang masasabi ko lang, imposibleng may rape na maganap with a span of less than 2 minutes! Kahit anong compute ko ng time, malabo talaga.


ako din sis, gumamit pa nga ako integral calculus, hindi pa rin lumalabas ang tamang digits... hirap nito! salamat cedric at deniece sa pagbibigay sa amin ng isang very challenging Math problem... pampahasa rin ng utak!

insekyora

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #304 on: January 30, 2014, 06:33:58 am »
Maybe yun mga rape issues (granted that there was) 9 years ago were the height of street boys kasikatan na may mga willing din. Just my POV.

Concentrate muna sa
 current issue...

OO nga sis :) Kasi yung source din ng mga past rapes "kuno" daw ni Vhong,  sina Cedric at Deniece din so kung carry nilang mag-habi ng story na-raped si deniece at humarap sa media, kaya din ng mga sikmura niyan na mag-imbento ng rape scenes ng iba! IMO, manyak si Vhong pero kung may mga ganong kamanyakan most likely may consent yung mga girls dahil gusto rin nila si Vhong or mga nakainom din yung mga yun, but that's beside the point.. 

gentai_chan

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #305 on: January 30, 2014, 06:39:03 am »
Well obviously mahirap talagang paniwalaan na there was a rape incident that happened in 2 mins time, unless na lang na si vhong is nakahubo na yung pants and sunggab kay Deniece agad agad di na nakapagpigil. But evident naman yung ichura ni Deniece without any trace na ginamitan ng pwersa or sinasabing hinablot sa buhok nung pagsakay sa elevator with matching smirk and konting ayos sa hair. anyway good luck sa palusot.

insekyora

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #306 on: January 30, 2014, 07:00:57 am »
true! maniniwala lang ako na may rape scene na naganap kung ang nakita sa CCTV ay si Vhong na tumatakbong pumasok sa condo na wala ng salawal.

hunny_ally

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #307 on: January 30, 2014, 07:26:27 am »
I think if there is any rape it happened on Jan 17.

No doubt the Jan 22 rape never happened (ano yun 2 mins interval nakita si Vhong and Deniece sa lobby. Lets give a margin of error na 5mins to account for different timestamps, impossible pa din). Obviously it is just a lie to justify the citizen's arrest done by CL.

Either CL was a jealous lover or this is indeed their MO to extort money from people. Edited: apparently it is a jealous lover's revenge based on the sources of Mon Tulfo, a non-Kapamilya http://m.inquirer.net/newsinfo/?id=571371

Naging classmate pala ni JV Ejercito si CL. I'm not sure if this was from Xavier days or sa college
« Last Edit: January 30, 2014, 07:44:18 am by hunny_ally »

solepurplelife

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #308 on: January 30, 2014, 07:46:58 am »
I think if there is any rape it happened on Jan 17.

No doubt the Jan 22 rape never happened (ano yun 2 mins interval nakita si Vhong and Deniece sa lobby. Lets give a margin of error na 5mins to account for different timestamps, impossible pa din). Obviously it is just a lie to justify the citizen's arrest done by CL.

Either CL was a jealous lover or this is indeed their MO to extort money from people.

Naging classmate pala ni JV Ejercito si CL. I'm not sure if this was from Xavier days or sa college

Right! If there's any incident of rape, most likely it happened on first meeting. I think mas malaki pa ang laban nila kung yun ang ni-claim nila.

true! maniniwala lang ako na may rape scene na naganap kung ang nakita sa CCTV ay si Vhong na tumatakbong pumasok sa condo na wala ng salawal.

Again, let's give the benefit of the doubt. Try natin himayin ang two mins. Let's say within 30 sec nakapasok na si Vhong sa unit ni DC, another 30 sec hinablot na ni VN si DC and pinned her down (accdg. to her claims), 30 sec pa sa paghubad ni Vhong sa pants nya and pinipilit his genitals to DC, then the last 30 sec nakatakas na sya at nkalabas ng unit. Pwede noh?  ???

I don't think so.  :P

swiTsuplada

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #309 on: January 30, 2014, 07:53:55 am »
Buti naman at tahimik na ang ibang mga HB na GT members, kapag hindi sumasang-ayon sa opinyon nila ang opinyon mo-- bigla na lang mang-aaway. ;D cool lang peeps.

Anyway going back to this issue, sa nagtatanong if merong way para ma-retrieve ang deleted messages... my answer is a big "YES". Nasabi ko na sa unang VN thread that they just have to approach a professional mobile forensics expert or buy the super expensive gadget. The brand is Cellebrite but I think only the authorized local/government members can purchase it. At sobrang mahal ng isang unit plus training pa.

Nakakagigil talaga ang mukha ng Deniece na 'to. Minsan ayoko ng tignan pa sa tv. >:(

hunny_ally

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #310 on: January 30, 2014, 08:02:22 am »
^and I *think* the telecoms can retrieve those messages. When we text, pumapasok yan sa servers ng telecom. Not sure Lang how long they retain that in their databases. Plus you will need to get a court order before they release it.

gentai_chan

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #311 on: January 30, 2014, 08:04:58 am »
I agree kung may rape attempt pwede pa paniwalaan that it happened jan 17 but Deniece herself made it clear during her interview that nothing happened on that day but the 22nd. pero contradicting sa footage if bawiin nya yun good luck naman sa credibility niya. Tama sila magiging questionable yun so yeah panindigan nya yun. Kaliwa kanan yung interview nila in fairness ha consistent naman pero sa sariling bibig din sila nahuhuli. The way it looks like eh parang si Vhong yung rape victim. I hope naman may usad na dito sa kasong 'to and managot ang dapat managot.

chicafabulosa

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #312 on: January 30, 2014, 08:19:55 am »
@aquachqrly, atsi no wag na wag kang gagawa ng business dealings with CL. For sure magulo.

solepurplelife

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #313 on: January 30, 2014, 08:23:01 am »
Buti naman at tahimik na ang ibang mga HB na GT members, kapag hindi sumasang-ayon sa opinyon nila ang opinyon mo-- bigla na lang mang-aaway. ;D cool lang peeps.

Lololololol  ;D

RichV

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #314 on: January 30, 2014, 08:29:38 am »
Sis RichV are you talking about Kat Alanos' Facebook posts at nagcomment dun ang isang 'M' saying Vhong raped one of his friends, tapos nagcomment din si Ping Medina?

I think we are referring to the same person "M" - last name begins with "R", correct?

I don't know Kat Alano so I'm not FB friends with her (and I'm not sure if he is the one Chica Fabulosa is also referring to) and I can't see what she posts on FB.

But "M" apparently is a very close friend of Kat Alano (he is the one tagging her in the related posts on my friend's FB wall) and he is the leader of the bible study group of Cedric Lee. I can see M's comments on my friend's FB. Accd to "M", Kat told him "something" as far back as three years ago, siguro we can conclude what Kat told him abt Vhong, given Kat's recent tweets.

(Btw, sis let's not reveal M's FULL name here since he's a private individual, regardless of what he shares on FB.)

My thoughts on Kat Alano - I am guessing something really happened to her but I wish she would tell the public her side of the story. I know it's not easy for rape/molest victims to talk about their ordeal and if she has kept quiet after all these years, I am sure she was really traumatized. But her mysterious tweets and FB posts have already opened a can of worms....parang for me personally, either tell the world what you know or you should have just kept quiet na lang. There's no turning back now.

Hinting about what may have happened isn't helping her cause, in fact, she is now being attacked and her integrity being questioned. Time for her to speak up, I think.

daffadoodles

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #315 on: January 30, 2014, 08:51:11 am »
Yeah sis RichV I think we're talking about the same guy. I agree with your sentiments re Kat Alano. I feel sorry for her if she was indeed raped, pero I dunno confessions through social media irks me eh. She should've filed a separate case instead. Because really, if we're going to base on the CCTV footage, walang laban ang kaso ni DC. Unless there's something else we haven't seen yet, but I highly doubt it.

By the way DC cannot claim that she was raped on the 17th kasi her supposed rape on the 22nd is CL's alibi kaya they beat up VN. Kung gawin niya yon, mawawalan ng depensa sina CL, kulong talaga sila for illegal detention and severe physical injuries.

byutijunkie

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #316 on: January 30, 2014, 08:55:03 am »
Why do I get the feeling that Cedric Lee's group didn't expect Vhong to come out in public about this?  Parang hindi kasi plantsado yung mga rason nila, that is if rumors are true na modus operandi na nila ang mangblackmail...

SnowBall

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #317 on: January 30, 2014, 08:55:49 am »
I just noticed sa video na parang tinulak siya ng guy papasok sa elevator and hinatak naman siya ni bernice ng palabas na. parang ayaw niya na sumama.

eto din sana ipopost ko, naunahan mo ako sis.

Nung unang part, nakakatawa pa siya eh, pa cool cool lang si deniece, kasi siguro ang ineexpect lang naman niya eh bugbog lang at extortion ang magaganap.

Eh siguro nung tinorture na si Vhong sa ari nito, doon na na realized ni Deniece na teka, sobra na ata, kaya makikita sa video, nung huling part, si Deniece nga ang pinaka huling sumakay as if nagtatalo na loob niya, kung sasama pa siya or not.

So, may kunsensiya din pala ang Lola Deniece mo kahit papaano.

Kung ako sa kanya, babaliktad na ako, sasabihin ko na ang totoo.

Hindi pwedeng Jan. 17 yung attempted/rape dahil tinanggi na yan ni Vhong, at tinanggi na din ni Deniece, walang nangyari daw nung Jan. 17.  Kung babawiin yan ni deniece, nasaan na ang credibility niya, pupulutin pa din siya sa kangkungan.


Grabe noh, naawa ako kay Vhong nung nasa elevator na siya, nagtatawanan pa sina Cedric, tapos si Vhong, nung hindi pa sumasakay si deniece, nakasilip pa yung ulo niya, as if he's waiting na pwede pang mabago yung situation kung nasaan siya.

For me naman, kung may ni rape man si Vhong na iba, labas yun dito, basta ang sinasabi ng ebidensiya, hindi ni rape ni Vhong si deniece.

Kung may ni rape man siyang iba, lumabas ang iba niyang biktima, at magpakita ng ebidensiya, now a days, it's so easy for a girl to cry rape kahit hindi totoo, iba na talaga ang panahon ngayon.


chicafabulosa

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #318 on: January 30, 2014, 08:57:17 am »
Was it just me mga sis, nung andun na sinang lahat sa elevator and last pumasok si deniece i think i saw her smiling or smiled then yuko.. Or namamalikmata lang ako

SnowBall

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Re: Vhong Navarro thread 2
« Reply #319 on: January 30, 2014, 09:12:12 am »
^ ako naman ang nakita ko sis, eh napilitan na siyang sumakay.

kaya nga hinila pa siya ni bernice lee nung lalabas na.


Siguro sa sobrang takot ni Vhong, hindi na muna siya nakakaramdam ng pain, kasi ang balita diba parang sinunog na cauliflower yung ari niya sa torture, pero maayos pang nakakapaglakad si Vhong nung nasa elevator na sila.




 

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