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chichi143

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #60 on: March 20, 2014, 02:22:28 pm »

once you're all brought up to speed you can join the global meditations, where the group can join other groups from other parts of the globe and meditate together. you'll be doing esoteric service and will be generating lots of good karma. those meditations will generate some level of harmony on earth, of course, since you've given harmony, healing etc., you'll be karmically entitled to such in your lives. that's the law naman.

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This is something that I am really looking forward to!

AranesBelegeth

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #61 on: March 20, 2014, 11:51:29 pm »
^me, too.

I been reading a lot about the dweller now. Medyo information overload. :P

According to myoccultcircle.com:
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The dweller on the threshold thus marks a crossing of borders and discovery of a secret and potentially even sacred space behind a veil. To lift this veil, however, the aspirant needs to face the dweller or lord who guards the threshold. This explains the latin term ‘Dominus Liminis’. It must be translated as ‘Lord of the Threshold’ and is used in several Western magical societies and orders to mark a liminal experience of transition as the aspirant strives to progress into the deeper mysteries of occult lore.
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I guess this is the reason why a teacher is really needed. Andami ko pala talagang hindi alam.

schizo_me

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #62 on: March 21, 2014, 10:54:08 am »
i will recommend to you books then you can do it when you're away.  san ka ba located sis

HI Akthung, any book suggestions please. lately, puro kay deepak chopra ang binabasa ko

akthung

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #63 on: March 21, 2014, 11:34:42 am »
I'll PM you sis.

pret_ty68

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #64 on: March 21, 2014, 12:22:32 pm »
^
Pa pm rin  :)

purple.strawberry

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #65 on: March 21, 2014, 04:25:35 pm »
Pa-pm din ako please. :)

akthung

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #66 on: March 21, 2014, 04:42:21 pm »
Pret_ty68: PM sent.

purple.strawberry: PM sent.


purple.strawberry

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #67 on: March 21, 2014, 07:01:50 pm »
^Thanks akthung! :)

nettai

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2014, 10:42:35 pm »
Ayun, I am given a contact here in the Philippines, and may mga recommended books and CD/DVDs din sila for the entry level. I've already asked where they can be located and how we can be updated for full moon meditation, Sunday exercises and other events.

Kahit din naman ako, very busy din naman and madalas I work on weekends and holidays. But I'm going to give this a try. I truly hope that this becomes a fruitful one. :)

A Muslim guy once told me, "Makikita mo na may pareho sa paniniwala natin. Lahat din naman tayo may hinahanap sa buhay natin na di natin nakikita. Kaya okay din na Katoliko ka."

Thanks bro :)
« Last Edit: March 22, 2014, 10:46:30 pm by nettai »

chichi143

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #69 on: March 23, 2014, 05:09:03 am »
I am also communicating with Ms. Helen via email. :)

Well then, I hope to see all of you you in one of his seminars/workshops in the future. :)

akthung

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #70 on: March 23, 2014, 07:05:27 am »
everyone: you're welcome.

a little bit of history.

my friends I met late 90s. we were a group of about 50-70 people because on major events, the total head count would be close to 50-70. but the core was about 20 people max.

dati we'd pool all our money, and we'd buy books from the US. im sure most of you know how it was in the 90s. books we're not that much. and there were no ebooks yet. not that much. yung mga available lang noon were of the scanned type and from dubious authors.

kaya doon dumami ang books ko. we all eventually were able to build a personal library of esoteric books from the US. ( i had to give a lot away when i left for aus)

tapos may esoteric school hopping pa kami. halos every night we'd visit a school or a master. we'd pool money for donations. nililigawan namin yung teachers. nagbibigay kami ng kung ano ano. i wasn't the richest in the group. i started when i was a student, but those with money were able to contribute and spend more. isang naaalala ko we gave 10,000 pesos noon early 2000s for one book na latin. maraming ganun kaming ginawa. todo gastos talaga.

buti na lang naging negosyante ako later and my income was based on hardwork and not on a fixed salary. all i had to do was to become creative sa paghanap ng customer.

of course nag grow din ang internet and nag grow din yung mga groups na sa ibang bansa pagdating sa usage ng internet.

grabe noon. one cassette tape from one teacher na sinusundan ko was 150 dollars. year 2000 yun ha. I had to buy all the 13 tapes.

so not only did our book collection grow, pati na din tapes, VHS and CDs. yung mga local books namin, maraming mga galing probinsya. we'd request teachers from the provinces to hold seminars for our group. teachers, healers, masters hanggat marerequest, magrerequest kami (or kulit) to teach us. malalakas din ang events noon. plus mga full moon meditations. weekend healings.

wala pa diyan yung crystals. yung mayayaman sa group namin were able to but really big ones, bigger than a wheel of a sedan. (crystal ball)

looking back, i could have saved a lot. LOL

but we were really hardcore noon. sa akin i found myself meditating 6-8x a day. start of the day 5am, before business opens at 9am, lunchtime, 3pm, 6pm, 9pm and 12am. at kung may small opportunity between these times i'd go and meditate. this is the average day. karamihan sa group of friends namin matindi din mag practice. i was always out of the house and it pissed my parents off. uso noon sa kabataan ang "gimmick" di ba? gimmick ko was meditating and serving diff teachers.

having said all of these. marami talagang manloloko. we've had our share. yung iba limited lang ang alam. yung iba, elemental lang pala ang nagbibigay ng inspiration. yung iba hope lang. yung iba, hindi binibigay lahat kahit may agreement na kayo. yung iba parang psychologist lang...sariling opinion lang binibigay, hindi talaga reader or what...

another thing is, if A person is not meant to be your master, he will not be your master. BUT, he can prepare you to meet your next teacher.

having gone through all of the above, masasabi ko na best pa din yung may structure. yung may programa. if a teacher has a program, then those books weren't made to sell. they were made to reach students. now if a book is worth 100 pesos. its worth 100 pesos. yun ang fair exchange. and its good. why? kasi mga naranasan namin noon, they'll ask or promise 10 items (teachings, techniques or what) for say, 500 pesos. pero on the day of delivery, 8 lang ibibigay.

may magpropromise ng seminar with X number of topics. hindi lahat ibibigay. or magbibigay pero internally may feeling na dinaya ka. kumbaga kung sine yun. binigyan ka ng trailer. tapos mga

ibang psychic eh, kung magtampo kala mo kung sino. gusto nila 100 percent kang maniniwala sa kanila. pero wag ka, pag nagkamali sila or nawalan ka ng pera dahil sa prediction nila. hindi lang sila iimik, pero dikit pa din sa iyo. samantalang pag ikaw naman nagkamali, ayaw na nila sa iyo. LOL

i can go on and on about the bad experiences we've had. i kid you not, dami na kaming perang natapon at marami kaming relationships na nasira. (advice: if you learn something new, don't burn your friends pag iba na opinion niyo sa buhay. true love is encompassing.)

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para sa akin, maganda na system ni MDP. everything is clearly defined and spread out. and you have an enlightened master to email pa. lol wala nang pakiramdaman system. etc etc. CLEAR lahat.

para sa akin, kaya ko shinashare to is para may "CORE" kayo. kumbaga sa buhay, may formal education kayo. with formal education you'll be able to discern properly what is wrong or right. etc







« Last Edit: March 23, 2014, 07:16:36 am by akthung »

Cluelesschx

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2014, 01:10:45 pm »
Hi sisses and Akthung,

Please pm me din sa books, cd, na pwede ko mabasa or magamit. Also sa class/group na nabasa ko sa previous page (and also this page).

I attended (full) classes before tungkol sa mga ganito, pero wala kasing follow through, so yung mga ginagawa ko hindi ko alam kung tama or what. Meron din naman kayong "batch", pero napansin ko sa ilang meetings namin after the class, mas focused ang nag shashare sa "talents/gifts" nila na ganito nagawa nila etcetera, e wala  naman akong ganun (  :( ) tapos d naman natuturuan ng "advanced", tapos eventually nag die down din interest ng batch na mag meet etcetera

Ang meditation pala iba iba? I mean meant for iba ibang chakras? Me marerecommend ba kayo na link ng ginagamit nyo?

Thank you.

Also pala, since napansin ko me "core" posters naman talaga dito sa thread, sana maka pag organize tayo ng meet up, para magshare ng info, or experience or recommended class, books etcetera
 Personally talaga dito sa amin (sa province) wala ako matanong about dito, kaya im so glad I stumbled sa thread na ito.

Thanks thanks everyone :)

chichi143

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2014, 01:30:14 pm »
Cluelesschx, hi sis! i know right? wala rin akong makausap about this here. there's a friend of mine, were very close, she understands this concept too... pero ayoko namang idrag siya all the time. gusto ko rin magaral on my own... then share it to the like minded. and then pag marami na kong alam, then i can enlighten others too.

sent u a pm of the books that he recommended ;)

chichi143

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #73 on: March 23, 2014, 01:31:00 pm »
Cluelesschx, hi sis! i know right? wala rin akong makausap about this here. there's a friend of mine, were very close, she understands this concept too... pero ayoko namang idrag siya all the time. gusto ko rin magaral on my own... then share it to the like minded. and then pag marami na kong alam, then i can enlighten others too.

sent u a pm of the books that he recommended ;)

akthung

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #74 on: March 23, 2014, 02:33:48 pm »
cluelesschx.

nag PM na ako sa iyo.

naiintindihan ko dinaanan mo. wala kasing guidance and support kaya ganun ang nangyari sa group.

kaya when i met MDP noon 2003, i worked hard. since 2003 up to the day he personally called me over the phone, araw araw kong binebless yung idea na maging permanent ang presence niya sa Pinas. araw araw yun after meditations for 2  years. kasi i knew, back then, that it would be different under him, na mayroon support and guidance. lalo na noon, maraming masters na bihirang dumadaan sa pinas.
so when he arrived, i worked hard to show that pinas is worth visiting. kasi noong huling dalaw niya nung 2003, momentum wasn't enough. from late 2003 to 2005 ako lang nangungulit at bumibili sa US. come 2005, i had to make sure mas malakas na ang momentum. good enough for him to return. it picked on from there.

you'll be good in this group. imho. you'll have ways to practice and avenues to serve. through proper practice, magblobloom lahat. lahat tayo may 2 kamay, paa, etc... impossible walang mag bloom.

invite more peeps. friends from GT. para may group din kayo if you like.

by helping others gain enlightenment, you are helping yourself in your enlightenment. bubuksan ka din ng itaas....

ps.

pwede din kayong matutong mag healing.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2014, 02:54:38 pm by akthung »

Cluelesschx

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #75 on: March 24, 2014, 08:22:10 am »
^ already sent a message sa email address youve indicated. been trying to google mdp, pero everytime I try to access a section palaging page not found ;( will research din sa books na namention mo.
Youve mentioned in previous posts na me group kang nasalihan. existing pa ba ang groups na ito? thanks.

^^ sis si purple.strawberry i know very interested din sa ganito.maybe we can create a fb page about this, very good naman kasi na me support from like minded people para matuloy tuloy pag aaral natin ng ganto. minsan kasi (as ive experienced) sa kabusyhan natin tapos wala makausap talaga about this, naseset aside na [textspeak!] desire to learn more. I am gladnagtatanong tanong na sa akin ang hubby ko tungkol dito, dati kasi wa pakels talaga sya tinitolerate lang nya pagluwas luwas ko ng manila para umattend ng classes iniisip nya hobby ko na namang bago ;)

sana makapagshare ang iba pa ng experiences nila about this ;)

thanks again ^ and ^^ sa pm

akthung

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #76 on: March 24, 2014, 09:57:16 am »
^ already sent a message sa email address youve indicated. been trying to google mdp, pero everytime I try to access a section palaging page not found ;( will research din sa books na namention mo.
Youve mentioned in previous posts na me group kang nasalihan. existing pa ba ang groups na ito? thanks.


maybe there's something wrong at your end sis. nothing wrong with my net.
chichi143 was able to view a lot of details naman at her end.

as for groups i believe some of them are still alive. its just that i never looked back after i left. would you leave your trike now that you have a lexus? a lot of them are also ritual intensive. minsan doing just the simple things can take half a day, some even whole day. so how are we supposed to live life and apply our realization when we're so holed up in practice. the best thing with the meditation system i had mentioned is that they are short but very very effective and give quicker results. way better than 2 hours of chanting (example lang). its a no BS system.

i personally appreciate this very much... siguro dahil sa mga dinaanan ko.

on the other hand, what's the cost of a book? a cd? dvd? the cd's and DVDs im using now are the same ones i got in 2003 and 2004 respectively.

at the end of the day its about using the right tools. most often the right tools are the simple ones.  hindi naiiba sa athleticism - all about the right food, the right amount of rest, the right exercises, correct technique and application. simple. no fads. no fancy supplements. no fancy equipment. no fancy workout. of course you have the added benefit of receiving guidance from a himalayan trained teacher who has "attained"

hindi porket esoteric, yun na ang sagot sa hinahanap natin. nope. dami pa din hindi totoo. tsaka dapat geared toward spirituality and not power.  yung iba blinded. kala nila spirituality. pero nope. inwardly power ang hinahanap. kaya it pays to scan the teacher. malaki ba spiritual cable? meron dyan magsasabi 30 years na daw syang practitioner, liit naman ng spiritual cable. meron nga ako na meet, alam daw niya lahat ng chakra system, pero living a double life pala. may very immoral side pala yung tao. nanunutok pa ng baril. ngek.  :o tao lang naman tayo but, sometimes...some things are just way off.

now once may good foundation na ang isang tao sa esoteric, mayroon na syang capability to discern correctly yung mga nakikita sa net at ibang libro.


« Last Edit: March 24, 2014, 10:09:58 am by akthung »

chichi143

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #77 on: March 24, 2014, 10:26:44 am »
oo nga eh. nowadays andaming manloloko!

mahirap magtiwala but im learning how to use my gut / intuition nowadays.
if i feel somethings off, id found out later on that its really true.

i watched his youtube videos last night.
nakakatuwa siya magsalita.
its like hes a very calm man.
parang naiimagine ko pa nga siyang may glow habang nagsasalita. haha
kaya natuwa ako and i want to really buy his books hehe and then ill take it from there. :p

may napanuod ako video about him regarding the end of the Piesces phase. And were about to reach the Aquarian phase na raw. And that natural phenomenas are really about to occur because the world is shifting on its own. its a way of cleansing and correcting itself.

AranesBelegeth

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #78 on: March 24, 2014, 11:46:35 am »
I watched MDP's Regain Your Life sa youtube. Gusto ko yun tinuro niya sa last part ng speech niya. YUn sa ocean dun mo rerelease lahat ng negative na nakuha mo. I am going to do that every night to renew myself.

Going to buy his books and cd as well.

akthung

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Re: Enlightenment in a Spiritual Sense
« Reply #79 on: March 24, 2014, 11:52:58 am »

i watched his youtube videos last night.
nakakatuwa siya magsalita.
its like hes a very calm man.
parang naiimagine ko pa nga siyang may glow habang nagsasalita. haha
kaya natuwa ako and i want to really buy his books hehe and then ill take it from there. :p


wait until you meet him in person. he's more than 10 times the personality you can feel on youtube.


 

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