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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #80 on: June 22, 2013, 11:52:36 am »
agree ako maayos na pagtrato at tamang pasahod. saka they have a notion na helper sila so hindi dapat lahat talaga sila ang aasahan sa gawaing bahay. they need to be assisted din from time to time kung hindi magpapaalam agad sila.
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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #81 on: June 27, 2013, 11:10:07 am »
Kanya kanya talaga ng opinion ang bawat isa  :)

Ako kasi, na-try ko na lahat ng pwedeng gawin. Perks, High-pay, pakikisama ang all. Pero masasabi ko lang, di ko alam kung sadya lang talaga na malas ako sa kasama sa bahay o pare-pareho sila. I tried maging maluwag, abuso naman. Yung tipong chummy-chummy, parang family. Mega-abuso to the point tatawagin pa sila kapag kakain na. Naghigpit naman ako, sobrang rebellious naman to the point na gantihan ako. I am on my 14th kasambahay / yaya and so far naka-three (3) weeks na rin sya. I am planning na paalisin na dahil lately, gustuhin ko man na mag-stay sya, di healthy ginagawa nya sa anak ko. I am preggo kasi at nakikialam sa pagpapalaki ng bata. Though, at first sinabi ko sa kanya na wag nya papakialaman yung mga bagay na pagkausap sa anak ko. Gaya nitong isang araw narinig ko sinabi nya na "kapag lumanas na bagong baby ng mommy mo, di ka na nila mahal. ako na lang magmamahal sayo?" Halllerrrr!!

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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #82 on: June 28, 2013, 03:14:31 pm »
They stay because they like the work and the salary is okay for them.
Also iniisip din nila if they to another employer, panibagong adjustment sa ugali ng employers..
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« Reply #83 on: June 28, 2013, 04:14:56 pm »
Sadly, kahit gaanong kaganda ang trato at pasahod natin sa mga helpers natin, if they see better opportunities, dun sila pupunta.

Basta ang sa akin lang, if you find decent helpers, don't treat them as if mas inferior sila sa atin; treat them as part of your family.

While dapat nga talaga may boundaries, let's remember na helper sila at hindi alila/slave.
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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #84 on: July 13, 2013, 04:59:47 am »
Our yaya has been with us for nearly 18 months already. Her reasons for staying (I can only assume as I don't talk to her about it).

-Pay her higher than average - in fact a lot of people have told me I pay too much for my yaya
-If it doesn't harm my daughter, I let her be. I let her feel like she has the freedom to do things - such as allowing her to choose my daughter's outfits, the activities they do on a daily basis, etc.
-I don't think anyone else will hire her for her age, she is turning 60 this year
-She has no other responsibility aside from caring for my daughter - in short I don't run her to the ground with work.

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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #85 on: July 13, 2013, 05:51:17 am »
for us naman, basta hindi malikot kamay and mabait ok na sa amin.. we treat her like a family kasi nakakaawa rin naman sila.. wala naman siguro gusto maging helper kung may iba pa silang choice na mas magandang trabaho.. my mom, she's generous sa mga naging helpers namin, they had xmas bonus and 13th month pay..may increase pa per year, talagang compute ng mom ko..kaya nagtatagal sa amin ng 5-8 years like that.. shortest was maybe 2 years.. pinapaaral din ng mom ko sila since malapit lang kami sa school..

piece of advice lang, kapag may inutos tayo sa helper natin then mali sila or hindi maayos e sana try to understand them na lang.. wag na pagalitan and all..yung isip nila hindi katulad nung sa atin..I remember one time, our doctor asked our janitor to buy her an apple juice, then when the janitor came back, he handed an orange juice to the doctor.. the doctor just stared at me knowing that i heard what she said earlier.. :) then when the janitor left i told the doctor, "doc, kaya nga po sila nag janitor e, edi sana nag dr na rin sila.. :)"doc just smiled and opened the juice..

sana we treat them fair, and give them what they deserve.. :))
and besides, ang hirap, super hirap na talaga ngayon makahanap ng trusted na maid..
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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #86 on: July 18, 2013, 01:37:13 pm »
Im not very lucky when it comes to maid wala masyado nag tatagal sa akin for various reason since nung mag asawa ako almost 2 yrs na I admit im not the best amo pero most of my maid is may sayad talaga:-)

Napansin ko sa maid yung medyo nag tagal at gusto bumalik ang reason nila are the ff.

1. Suweldo pag 3,500 up na suweldo nila nag iisip muna yan bago umalis ito and pinaka effective sa lahag
2. May kasama sa bahay - usual reaso kung bakit umaalis maid namin is na bobored and nalulungkog.
3. Age - pag bata ang katulong hindi talaga usually tumatagal at karamihan tamad.
4. Friends and family - pag madami siya friends at family n malapit sa kanya mas enjoy siya
5. Treatment - I think ito yung pinaka least reason kung bakit umaalis kasi kahit na ituring mo sila agad na parang kapamilya aalis pa din sila uutangan ka pa. Pero syempre you should treat them with respect and kahit na inis n inis ka na try not to shout at them

Pero wala perfect formula para mag stay ang katulong iba iba kasi ugali nila and i stop understanding how their brain works kasi most of them hindi ko maintindihan.

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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #87 on: July 18, 2013, 03:04:38 pm »
Ako I observed kahit gaano kaganda ng pakikitungo mo sa kanila, in the end, a maid will stay depende sa circumstances nya sa buhay. like if she really needs cash para buhayin ang pamilya nya or like a previous maid, she needs it para makapagtapos ng pagaaral. kapag walang need yung maid na nasasatisfy ng trabaho nya, i think hindi talaga magsstay sila kahit ano pa.

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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #88 on: July 30, 2013, 04:18:55 pm »
WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
- maayos ang working style ninyo and do not let her feel na alila sya or something to that matter.
- sa amin, I ask her If may problema sya, I tell her na huwag syang mahiyang sabihin sa akin at kung kaya ko naman eh puede ko syang tulungan
- lots of prayers too, because at the end of the day stranger yan na pinatuloy mo sa bahay mo, mag-alaga ng anak at bahay mo so we need spiritual intervention for this.

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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #89 on: October 27, 2013, 05:05:27 am »
^Amen to that sis, I am really praying hard for a "heaven sent" and complete package yaya. Prayers ang pinanghahawakan ko and I know that we will be able to find one, in God's time.
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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #90 on: October 28, 2013, 12:09:27 pm »
I so agree with chiqmom. Our helper has been with us for just a few months and we pay her P3,500. After 6 months we plan to increase her salary but it seems she does not plan to stay long...only until her daughter graduates in March. Tapos uuwi nalang daw siya sa probinsya. There are helpers naman with just short term goals like saving enough money to buy a nice cellphone. Then they leave.

One reason why our helpers don't stay long with us is because they get bored. Mag-isa lang kasi sila sa bahay and we don't need another maid. That is why I am very lenient with day offs because I know they need to socialize pero madalas inaabuso ang day-off.

Helpers also stay long if they have freedom to do as they please. Gusto nila pag medyo walang pakialam ang employers nila. Our neighbor's helpers have been with them for quite some time na. They are out all day and the helpers can do whatever they want. Medyo pabaya helpers nila pero hindi sila strict kahit hindi malinis ang bahay and lawn nila as long as someone stays home with their kid, cooks and does laundry for them when they are home. It's better than not having someone around.

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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #91 on: December 21, 2013, 10:06:54 pm »
I have had 2 maids and one common denominator is they ask for bale on the onset of the employment.  I was not agreeable to that at first and 1 to 2 months lang tinagal nila with me, even though I'm super nice, and they can relax anytime since I go home late at night. 

I have 2 extra maids so I wasn't really worried that those 2 maids left early.  Now that I'm moving to our new place, I'm more cautious with how I deal with this 1 maid referred by our yaya from valle just because I really don't want to be the one to clean our house.  I don't really agree that we should help out the maids with cleaning or maintaining the house.  The most I will do is help with cooking when I have time.  At first nga lang I will help out with cleaning to show how I want things done.

If they really need money, they will stay.  My maid now has many kids, some of which are still in school.  So, she really needs the money.  I think she will be comfortable naman in our home, I hope she turns out to be a keeper.

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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #92 on: September 08, 2014, 11:13:52 pm »
Wala rin nagtatagal sa amin na maid masyado. Usually 1 year lang max. Dati kasi wala kaming TV since my family relies on the 'net talaga. Techie kasi family ko. Ayun nung bumli kami ng TV nagtagal yung maid. Nung huli na lang ang tamad tamad na. Washing machine rin. Dati kasi kasama sa work nila yung laba and then i convinced my dad na it's hard to handwash plus iron plus cook plus clean!! Finally he caved in and bought a washing machine. Ayun, I think mas ok relationship ng family ko with this one. I couldn't tell lang since I don't live at home with them anymore.

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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #93 on: September 18, 2014, 07:15:42 pm »
I think gusto lang ng mga maids ay yung sapat at di naman paulit ulit na pagkain for them and I think TV can also help them stay kasi they have nothing to do na after they clean the house and no other way to relax but to watch TV or listen to the radio.  They get bored too you know hehe

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Re: WHAT MAKES HELPERS STAY?
« Reply #94 on: November 14, 2014, 03:48:22 pm »

Helpers stay when they are treated with dignity and made to understand that they're part of the team.

There was one policy my mother practiced. She'd hire you if you were willing to go for further education. So, my siblings and I grew up with high school graduate helpers who'd be going to school at the same time we did. They were treated like  family. The only difference, they had more house chores than we had. My parents provided for their tuition and spent for every school-related expense. They had weekly allowances instead of a monthly salary.

My mother was an educator, thus all our helpers took up Education. By the time they were in their third year and doing practice teaching, Nanay would hire a new helper so that the "older" helper would have time to prepare for her teaching duties.

We never ran out of househelp. On the average, helpers stayed for 5 years because my parents wouldn't let them go until they'd reviewed and passed the teacher's board. My folks also saw to it that they'd find work...and they would. Todate, we have two school principals who used to be our househelp.

According to one former helper who's been with us for nearly 34 years, my parents sent 25 people to school.

In my experience as an employer, my househelp stays because we treat them like family. Long after our househelp have "retired" mainly because nag-asawa na, the ties remain. They show up for all family occasions, to help out.

When my mom was in the hospital and eventually passed away. I didn't lack for watchers.

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« Reply #95 on: June 01, 2015, 06:36:07 pm »
I'm not sure we can really force the house helps to take up further studies.  At the end of the day, that is their choice. I asked my yaya now if she would eventually want to be an admin in one of our buildings.  She said she didn't want to, and probably prefers to be a help. We treat her well.  She sleeps in the same room we do, eat the same food we do, goes on vacation when we do.  She has been with us for 5 months only but she's been abroad na earlier than that.

If your house help is a good person, and her intention is really to work, she will stay no matter what.  There are other people na no matter how nice you are to them, hindi talaga magtatagal because they have no intention to. 
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« Reply #96 on: June 11, 2015, 02:57:17 pm »
It is really a hit or miss nowadays to look for household help. Yung mga maayos na naging household help namin usually 3 to 5 years nagstay sa amin.  Kaya lang syempre they want to have a family of their own so I have to let them go to start their own family, yung iba naman nabubuntis. Ngayon I feel pilay without my trusted angels, we gave them separation pay naman.  Pero nowadays akala ata ng mga household help e contractual lang sila up to 6 to 5 months lang tapos uraurada ang gusto makauwi na. pero kapag bumabale, walang isang salita binibigay mo.  They have christmas bonus, birthday bonus and before mid year bonus pero now ayaw ko na mag pa mid year bonus. Tapos I ask them to pay their plane tickets if they do not stay atleast for 1 year para may incentive to stay. We are very lax and our house is not very big but I get 2 household help kasi nga kadalasan nalulungkot. 
Our yaya who passed away stayed with us for 2o yrs kahit retired na sya she still stays in our house before jut to pass away time. Sometimes you just have to let small things pass as long as there is respect between the employer and employee. Hoping the one I can get now will stay longer. Missing our old yayas so much, life was so much easier and peaceful.

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« Reply #97 on: June 11, 2015, 05:23:29 pm »

IMHO...kailan kaya magkakaron ng Robot Helper in lieu of Human Yaya??? LoL
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« Reply #98 on: July 06, 2015, 10:57:40 pm »
We will never run out of house staff problems really.  We have shared herin the variations of managing them; & in my opinion, swerte swerte lang kung maka gets ng helper who matches the senyora's management style.  No style is better, nor morally superior. 

To-date, the cornerstone of my house staff management is still to treat them like office employees. With respect, strict discipline, better pay, benefits of office workers, and distance.  Through the years, once kina hon ko utak nila that they are treated just like the employees in our offices --  they shape up, accept that there is nothing personal between us, get resigned to my strict demands/standards, know it's useless to try to negotiate on my rules, know that "pasensya na" will eventually lead to their replacement.

I have stopped treating them the way we treat help in my mom's household. Yung parang family, yung pag aralin sila, etc etc.  This generation of helpers is different.  Pinag aral:  nag drugs, buntis, nag major in sex/kalandian, natuto live beyond their means, etc.  Enough.  Now I tell them: save and leave my house to study. 

For me it's:  This is the job description, these are my rules. Accept 100percent, kaya mo ba, or this is the end of this interview. 
When employed in my house,  kayo kayo mag sympathia --  do not look for anything from me, except your salary, benefits & safe welfare on my premises.
I interface my house staff with some of my office staff:  my secretary & receptionist (for food deliveries to the house, out-sourced maintenance requirements,  house requirements scheduled automatically by my secretary as per my annual scheds, etc.  kung anybody needs to schedule with our family doctors for medical attention);  1 accountant who handles their SSS, PhilHealth, etc etc...  Basta hwag ako ang kausapin. It is my secretary who talks to me in 1 go, if hindi nya ma decision-nan, kung ano man kelangan.   That way, the house staff feels "upgraded".  Basta mas type nila tell my sec about any house rqmnts needing outside attention, kesa see make my eyes big.

Kaya our old Yaya wonders:  ang suplada mo, ang stricto, ang sungit mo daw sabi maids mo, pero mabait ka daw.   (Lol)

So there, IMO, I never get confused na amo ako, kayo pa sweldo ko, hindi family.  So never kayo ma confuse our things are ours, period.  Never kayo ma confuse you know better. 
I never get confused: ako always masusunod, or out you go. Kasi yang maluwag/understanding ka sa mga mali --  eventually, their performance slides to what you don't like -- so tatagal lang ang problem.  I always tell them: 3 warnings lang.  Of course, some misdemeanors eh don't deserve warnings. 

Yang picture picture sa house.
I do not allow help to keep cell phones with cameras/cameras.  They get these returned to them pag off nila. I provide 2 cellphones with no cameras sa house para matawagan ko sila & vice versa.  Of course, I understand they need to feel connected to their far away families. They can keep their no-camera cellphones with them -- but we have strict rules about when they can use these - not in their pockets during work hours.

Now, usually during the holidays -- I give them the opportunity to dress up and picture picture by the Christmas tree, etc etc.  they giggle &  enjoy it.  They are in uniforms -- but during parties, I give them the chance to get group pictures, etc.  I think if they do pretend to be not maids -- como they come off in their uniforms more as personal assistants or as catering staff --  ok lang sa kanila picture picture in their uniforms.  Eh kung nag bikini at nag pose sa pool -- yan I cannot say with 100percent certainty does not happen. But for sure, 100percent, hindi swim wear ko gamit.

No photos of the family, specially the kids.  I tell them during the interview that pag they take photos -- wala ng tanong tanong, off to the NB1.  I say di ka man makulong, titignan ko may record ka na.  That may seem extreme to some here, but that is our reality, our lives. 

So far, so good. My helpers stay for a minimum of 3 years. They marry, get preggers , -- and leave.   I prefer getting house staff in their mid30s - mas stable emotionally and decedido na to work. 

Well, I also pray that I  never treat my staff unfairly, and that if they mean to bring discord or trouble into our home -- eh umalis na lang.   I know those with Chinese Feng shui/geomancers stick whatever sa house sabi eh:  even if it's a long trusted helper, feels the need to leave -- payabangan umalis agad before May mangyari pang masama.  I follow that too. 


 


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