Bulong sa patay

[sweet_maldita]

Hi gtalkers!  I have a questions about "bulong sa patay", meron na ba sa inyo nakaencounter nito or nakagawa nito? Nagkatoto ba yung binulong nyo sa patay?

Please share your stories. Thanks

[gumdrops26]

Nope, hindi sya nagkatotoo

[sweet_maldita]

Natry mo na po?

[the_witness]

Hello sweet_maldita. No hindi ko siya ti-nry pa or ever I ta-try.  Napakadaming gems sa Bible na once we give it a chance, and basahin, nakaka-amaze na nasasagot nito mga life's "mysteries" kung baga. Hindi pala siya mystery.

Like ang condition of the dead.  If my chance ka, check mo:

Ecclesiastes 9:5
"5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."

they are unconscious and lifeless in the grave.

And then Psalms 146:3,4
"Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. 4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish."

This means that the dead cannot do anything and cannot feel anything. Their thoughts have ceased.  So kung halimbawang bulungan mo man sila,  hindi naman nila maririnig.

So for me, personally, the term "RIP" is apt. They are really resting in peace.... "resting" like sleeping. Because one day magigising sila ulit (John 5:28,29). Malakas na ulit, and then maybe this time,  pwede mo namang sabihin sa kanila ang gusto mong sabihin

[hushush]

^well said. I agree with this one. At kung meron mang instance na natupad na wish, for sure may ibang nakarinig "bulong" mo. must be an evil entity at alam natin na may kapalit yan.

[LABYU]

^^interesting sis. I tried it before sa mga pets ko na namatay at sa tao din na kilala ko magkaiba yung way ko. Pabulong sa tao while sa hayop, once na nakalibing na, tirik ng kandila magdasal at ibulong ang gusto then wait lang yung kandila na matunaw, matutupad na yung binulong basta galing sa puso

[Hearthy95]

Hello sweet_maldita. No hindi ko siya ti-nry pa or ever I ta-try.  Napakadaming gems sa Bible na once we give it a chance, and basahin, nakaka-amaze na nasasagot nito mga life's "mysteries" kung baga. Hindi pala siya mystery.

Like ang condition of the dead.  If my chance ka, check mo:

Ecclesiastes 9:5
"5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."

they are unconscious and lifeless in the grave.

And then Psalms 146:3,4
"Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. 4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish."

This means that the dead cannot do anything and cannot feel anything. Their thoughts have ceased.  So kung halimbawang bulungan mo man sila,  hindi naman nila maririnig.

So for me, personally, the term "RIP" is apt. They are really resting in peace.... "resting" like sleeping. Because one day magigising sila ulit (John 5:28,29). Malakas na ulit, and then maybe this time,  pwede mo namang sabihin sa kanila ang gusto mong sabihin

Nabasa ko nga din na ang mga ghosts daw ay demons in disguise na niloloko lang mga tao. Yung sa aswang kaya? Kasi sabi nung ibang pastors ay totoo daw sila kasi mga fallen angels sila.

[plumpolka]

ano ba ang dapat pagbulong sa patay? right after mamatay or pag habang nakaburol? may iba nagsabi kasi na pagkamatay dapat... pero meron din na bumulong nung naka burol na. binulungan ko kasi lola ko na sya na bahala sa mga nang-aaway at nang-api sakin. ayoko din naman bigyan sya ng burden na gumanti kasi masaya na sya ngayon im sure. so parang bibigyan ko pa sya ng task gumanti hahaha. it's more of a prayer na sana hindi natutulog si God sa mga prayers ko and since malapit na sya kay God baka pwede niya brasuhin hahahaha!

[the_witness]

Nabasa ko nga din na ang mga ghosts daw ay demons in disguise na niloloko lang mga tao. Yung sa aswang kaya? Kasi sabi nung ibang pastors ay totoo daw sila kasi mga fallen angels sila.

OO sis, tumpak ang sinabi mo at nung pastors  about fallen angels (according sa Bible):


- God himself is a Spirit (John 4:24)
- His first creations were spirits. (Hebrews 1:13, 14)
- There are wicked spirits, or  demons (1 Corinthians 10:20, 21; James 2:19)
- Satan the first rebellious spirit (he was an angel), consumed by a desire to be worshipped, nandamay ng 1/3 ng heaven (ganon kadaming demons from myriads and myriads of angels ang  sumunod sa yapak ni Satan) na naging masama so hinagis sila lahat sa lupa -  Revelations 12:4-9
- Like Satan, the demons have turned themselves into cruel enemies of mankind.

Now back to talking to the dead, example, madaming ganitong stories - >   a woman in Ireland was contacted by a spirit medium who said that, nakausap niya daw si Fred,  asawa ni misis. Yet, Fred had died a few weeks earlier. The medium went on to relate what ?Fred? had said, matters that si misis lang nakakaalam.  and din kikilabutan si misis tipong "Oh wow, Fred was alive in the spirit world and was trying to make contact through the stranger" Pero, sabi naman sa Bible, the dead is just unconscious, his thoughts have perished, etc (Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10; Psalm 146:3, 4). So kanino  ba  maniniwala di ba? Sa spiritista ba or sa word of God itself sa Bible?

Tandaan, galit na galit ang Diyos sa practice na spiritism - (Deuteronomy 18:10-13; 2 Chronicles 33:6)

One tool of deception that the demons employ is that of impersonating the dead, in this case, Fred.

The motive? To turn people away from what the Bible teaches and to weaken faith and trust in God.

Kaya unquestionably, Satan and the demons mislead people with every powerful work and lying signs and portents and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing.  - 2 Thessalonians 2:9, 10.

Ingat ingat lang palagi --- powerful ang mga demons;  Nag-o-observe sila and active naghahanap ng masisila (1 Peter 5: . They are superhumans pati sa intellect, superior ang kakayahan nila.

So prayer ang laging effective na method. Yun ang way more powerful.  Leave the dead alone resting in peace and hintayin na lang silang buhayin ulit Jesus made it possible by his ransom sacrifice!