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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #420 on: May 21, 2019, 07:02:58 pm »
Read Vice's original tweet, and I didn't find it offensive, sawa na sya sa negativity, gusto nya magshopping, end of story. Tao na lang naglagay ng malisya.

His tweet saying he's a millionaire because he is hardworking - I don't find it mayabang, he's just telling the truth.  He works really hard. So he earns his keep. End of story. Should he say it another way para mas 'humble'? Baka mas tawagin ko pa siyang ipokrito if he sugarcoats it just to please the reading public.

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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #421 on: May 21, 2019, 11:20:48 pm »
Si Mariel malamang kunwari lang yang di affected sa pics na lumabas pero deep inside... jusko si Robin pa!

E diba selosa si Mariel? Wawa naman sya. Preggers pa tapos sensitive pa sya magbuntis. Hay naku Robin.

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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #422 on: May 21, 2019, 11:31:22 pm »
Si Anne Curtis na kasama ni Binoe sa teleserye dati pinagselosan niya, paano pa kaya yung babaeng nakakakandong at nakapulupot sa asawa niya.. Heheh!

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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #423 on: May 22, 2019, 06:54:07 am »
RE: VICE GANDA

Hindi naman ako na offend nung tweet, pero ang POV ko diyan sa mga issue na ganyan eh sana maging humble na lang palagi.
Mas maganda palagi ang maging humble at nakaapak sa lupa ang ating mga paa.

No need to say sa buong mundo na "millionaire ako, i am blessed, i am rich," etc...

Dahil for me, ang totoong mayaman eh hindi ipinagkakaingay at hindi na kailangan ipagmakaingay.


Well said Sis! For me naman, if someone is successful, no need to be PA humble or put on fake modesty just to please others. Fake humility is as much of a turn off as being mayabang.

Ang daming mga mayayabang on social media (hindi lang celebrities) who conveniently use the "I worked hard for this" excuse to make yabang. "Let me show off kasi I worked hard naman" is a form of humble brag.

Vice can make yabang all he wants, he did work hard for it. But by the same token, he is opening himself up to scrutiny and criticism.
Truth is, most people don't like braggarts especially those who flaunt their excessive lifestyles on social media. There's a good reason many of the world's and even the Philippines billionaire familes don't flaunt their luxurious lifestyles, alam nila there will be a backlash. Kung magyayabang ka, eh di you should ready to face both good and negative feedback.
 

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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #424 on: May 22, 2019, 08:52:09 am »
Kahit naman anong sabihin or i-tweet ni Vice Ganda, may masasabi at masasabi pa rin ang tao. That's the reality just because he is a public figure. Lage naman may bashers and supporters, na gagawin ang trabaho nila to bash and / or to support. Si Neri Miranda, halimbawa namamalengke and all, pero marami pa rin nasasabi kahit nagpapakahumble trying hard na nga sya or maaaring ganun lang talaga sya. Si Sarah Geronimo na wala naman sinasabi or pinupost sinasabi na magulang ang nakikinabang at inaabuso ang bata. Diba?
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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #425 on: May 22, 2019, 09:04:50 am »
Bago pa naging asawa ni Mariel si Robin, alam na nya kalidad ng tao na yan. Pero tinanggap at pinakasalan nya, so goodluck. Sa "history" ni Robin, ewan ko lang kung mag stick to one na sya ngayon. (well, I hope).

Vice -Hindi ako na offend. Haha! Para sa akin kasi, kahit naman ano post mo sa social media, meron masasabi ang tao. So kung ayaw mo may masabi, wag ka mag post. Sa case nya, nag post sya, so expect nalang may nega and positive comments.

Pero sa akin, hindi nakaka offend. Kasi totoo naman mayaman sya. Yung iba naman kasing tao lahat napapansin sa kapwa.. kapag nag humble post.. ang comment pa humble.. kapag nag flaunt, ang comment mayabang.  ;D ;D ;D

Mas ok na yung  ganyan kesa nagpapaka Trying hard.  Choice yan ng tao. Meron mga tahimik lang talaga and low profile. Meron naman hindi. Pero at the end of the day, as long as wala silang pinerwisyo to buy and get what they want, keber sa madlang people.
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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #426 on: May 22, 2019, 09:41:51 am »
Read Vice's original tweet, and I didn't find it offensive, sawa na sya sa negativity, gusto nya magshopping, end of story. Tao na lang naglagay ng malisya.

His tweet saying he's a millionaire because he is hardworking - I don't find it mayabang, he's just telling the truth.  He works really hard. So he earns his keep. End of story. Should he say it another way para mas 'humble'? Baka mas tawagin ko pa siyang ipokrito if he sugarcoats it just to please the reading public.



It's not offensive for me since hindi ako affected sa tweets nya and never was a fan of him. But I don't have to be offended to say na he was very hypocritical of the very things he said on his show and that his tweets are arrogant and insensitive (again, also words he said on his show to describe same behavior). I don't watch his show but saw a clip of that going around.

No one is discounting the fact that he worked hard for what he has, and no one is saying to those who splurge that they didn't work hard for what they have (well, except for the likes of Gretchen maybe).  I also had the same lines before when my poor relatives would ask me for money because I had so believed that success is achieved by working hard.

It was my younger "woke" brother who pointed out to me how WRONG that thought is, how that comes from a place of privilege. He told me I never took into consideration that the reason why I got good jobs, in the first place, is because I had the privilege to be educated at the best schools in the country. That growing up in those schools and around successful people made me stand out in interviews because I spoke well and had confidence which poor people who didn't have the same opportunities wouldn't have. This cartoon actually sums it up, please read: https://digitalsynopsis.com/inspiration/privileged-kids-on-a-plate-pencilsword-toby-morris/

In the same way, other people get opportunities because they were helped by a friend, like Vice, to get their foot in the door. Not many who are hardworking, especially those in blue-collared jobs, would have the same opportunities. Kaya, yes, saying you're a millionaire because you're hardworking amidst a population of millions of poor people IS insensitive and arrogant.
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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #427 on: May 22, 2019, 10:00:43 am »
I guess wala naman talagang offending sa tweet ni Vice...after all wala naman siyang binalahura sa tweet niya.

IMO it is more on.. Disappointing.

Nakaka lungkot lang mabasa na itinataas ng isang tao ang sarili niyang bangko.

Yung mga chinese friends ko nga na mas mayaman pa di hamak kay Vice eh never ko nabasahan ng tweet o shoutout sa FB na "millionaire ako" "mayaman ako" "my life is sooooo goood" or "i am soooo blessed".. hehe.

Nakakatuwa lang kapag ang isang mayaman at pinagpala eh hindi na kinailangang ipagsigawan sa mundo na mayaman sila at pinagpala sila.
 
Pagiging humble.. napaka importante niyan. Lalo pa naman at bilog ang mundo. You'll never know kung bukas, nasa itaas ka pa.

Sana ma realized ni Vice Ganda yun and mas piliin niya sana na maging low profile at palaging mababa ang loob.

Hindi naman niya kailangang sabihin pa.. Everybody knows. Hayaan niyang ibang tao ang makapansin at pumuri sa pamumuhay niya.

Mas magandang tignan at pakinggan. Sabi nga nila, ang taong nagpapakababa eh lalong itinataas.. ang taong nagpapakataas eh ibinababa. :)

Another Willie Revilliame and Kris Aquino in the making..

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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #428 on: May 22, 2019, 10:45:56 am »
No wonder daming depressed and stress kasi lahat na lang napapansin.

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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #429 on: May 22, 2019, 11:34:11 am »
Truth is, most people don't like braggarts especially those who flaunt their excessive lifestyles on social media. There's a good reason many of the world's and even the Philippines billionaire familes don't flaunt their luxurious lifestyles, alam nila there will be a backlash. Kung magyayabang ka, eh di you should ready to face both good and negative feedback.

couldn't agree more sis RichV. :)

Besides, si Vice mismo ang against sa flaunting of wealth and bragging.. sinabi niya yan sa show niya. Tapos biglang gawain din pala niya hehe.

Walk your talk, Vice.

POV lang, Walang Personalan ;)


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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #430 on: May 22, 2019, 11:39:27 am »
^  Sa totoo lang, walang dating sa akin mga drama nya sa show nya kapag parang nag papangaral sya.
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« Reply #431 on: May 22, 2019, 11:49:29 am »
This cartoon actually sums it up, please read: https://digitalsynopsis.com/inspiration/privileged-kids-on-a-plate-pencilsword-toby-morris/

In the same way, other people get opportunities because they were helped by a friend, like Vice, to get their foot in the door. Not many who are hardworking, especially those in blue-collared jobs, would have the same opportunities. Kaya, yes, saying you're a millionaire because you're hardworking amidst a population of millions of poor people IS insensitive and arrogant.


well grounded ang kapatid mo sis, kudos to him. And thanks for sharing a very well meaning cartoon.

Napaka simple lang for me nung issue.

I am a mother of two kids, I dont teach my children na mag yakyak sa ibang tao ng "mayaman kami", "matalino kami" "maganda kami" etc. Palagi kong tinuturo sa kanila na hayaan nilang ibang tao ang magsabi nun sa kanila, hindi yung pupurihin nila ang kanilang mga sarili.

Pagpupuri sa sarili kahit totoo pa is a no no for me.

I want them to grow up loving themselves but well grounded, and to always respect other people and to always treat others fair.




@CAYENNE,

Nahawa na ata kay Kris A. si Vice hehe.

Huwag naman sana, pero baka dumating ang panahon na umikot ang gulong at si Vice eh bumalik sa dati niyang buhay, may maibabato pa sa kanya ang mga tao.. Yung mga tweets niyang "I am a millionaire" and "my life is soooo gooood".

Walang masama sa pagiging mababa palagi ano man ang kanyang narating, sana i try niya.

POV lang, Walang Personalan ;)


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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #432 on: May 22, 2019, 12:12:10 pm »
Sa mga nagsasabi na mayabang si vice, actually yung sinabi niyang millionaire ako is pagpapatol na lang sa mga unang nag-bash sa kanya. Sa tingin ko masyadong walang ganap ang mga kabataan ngayon puro internet na lang kaya lahat na lang pinupuna. Palibhasa hindi busy sa buhay nila at may oras pa para mag bash ng kapwa.

Doon naman sa nagsabi na dapat "tayo" ang term ni vice:  Galing  si vice sa comedy bar na ang brand ng comedy is maglait ng kapwa.  Kaya talagang taklesa siya. Hanggang ngayon yan talaga ang brand ng comedy niya kasi doon siya nakilala.  Its not his nature na maging bait-baitan, nung ginawa niya dati yun sa showtime nasabihan pa na hindi bagay sa kanya.

Although tama kayo na hintayin na magpuri ang ibang tao, aminin natin nakaka-inis din yung mga bashers niya. Dapat ituro din sa mga anak natin na hindi rin dapat patulan o punahin ang lahat ng bagay. At lalo na hindi rin tama magbash ng kapwa.

Huwag na po nating idamay yung mga karpintero/basurero  etc kasi sure ako na yung mga nag-comment kay vice hindi yun ang trabaho. Huwag na natin isali dito yung mga usapan kung ano ang privileged o hindi kasi off topic na yan. Bakit? Kasi for sure mga privileged kids ang mga bashers na sa mamahaling phone ang gamit sa pagreply sa tweet kasi pa english-english pa as if naman sukatan ng talino yun.
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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #433 on: May 22, 2019, 12:28:16 pm »
Read Vice's original tweet, and I didn't find it offensive, sawa na sya sa negativity, gusto nya magshopping, end of story. Tao na lang naglagay ng malisya.

I agree, this is how I interpreted it too kaya gulat na lang ako at all the attention this is getting, haha. I've seen my fair share of truly offensive/self-important/thoughtless posts online over the years and parang ang harmless lang talaga nito compared to those. Seems like just someone na yun nga, maybe momentarily overwhelmed by all the negativity and would like to focus on something else, something good, other than that for a change. Hindi ako fan ni vice and hindi ko alam kung ganito ba talaga sya all the time or kung mayabang talaga sya or what, but from that original tweet alone, I don't see him necessarily trying to put down anyone. Yeah, the wording might've been the disagreeable thing about it, ang harsh kasi pakinggan yung mga gay magsalita minsan di ba, tapos comedian pa, eh di lagot tuloy si vice, ang dami tuloy interpretations, ang daming galit, LOL. But I've already seen people post many variations of "my life is so good" and I just let them be. Kung their life is good, then great for them.

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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #434 on: May 22, 2019, 02:31:44 pm »
Yun na nga ang irony, ang super affected at Twitter warriors eh mga englishero/englishera na afford ang smart phones and able tumambay sa Twitter the entire day at magbrowse (while sipping their coffee or milk tea). Daming time humanap ng aatakihin sa socmed. Yawkona!!!  ;D
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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #435 on: May 22, 2019, 02:35:43 pm »
Huwag na po nating idamay yung mga karpintero/basurero  etc kasi sure ako na yung mga nag-comment kay vice hindi yun ang trabaho. Huwag na natin isali dito yung mga usapan kung ano ang privileged o hindi kasi off topic na yan. Bakit? Kasi for sure mga privileged kids ang mga bashers na sa mamahaling phone ang gamit sa pagreply sa tweet kasi pa english-english pa as if naman sukatan ng talino yun.

You're wrong, it's exactly the topic. Yang "privileged" nga ang naging ugat ng pag-publish nya ng tweets ng mga woke kids na nangangaway sa kanya. Masyado syang offended na he was called out speaking from a privileged POV.

Bakit ka offended sa pagi-English ng mga woke kids na sinagot si Vice? As you said, privileged kids mga yan so malaking possibility that English is the language they grew up with, that they may be more comfortable with it than Tagalog and not because feeling nila matalino sila dyan.

Kahit ano pang inis mo, yung totoo mong pagkatao ang lalabas sa kung paano ka mag-respond.  Vulgarity is no substitute for wit.

Simple lang for me:
Did Vice crassly brag about his riches? YES.
In doing so, was Vice insensitive to the millions of poor and underpaid workers in the country? YES.
In doing so, was Vice hypocritical to the very idea he preached in his show? YES.

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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #436 on: May 22, 2019, 02:39:33 pm »
honestly, natawa ako sa mga pa woke, naka iPhone ang mga woke people. Ayoko na din sa earth.
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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #437 on: May 22, 2019, 03:06:45 pm »
^ And the connection between iphone ownership and woke kids is...?

Ang alam ko, kaya nga sila tinatawag na "woke" ay dahil sila yung mas nakakaangat sa buhay na mulat sa mga paghihirap ng mga less fortunate na tao sa paligid. Hindi tulad sa generation natin and older na most of us, concerned lang with our little worlds where our families, friends, acquaintances are.

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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #438 on: May 22, 2019, 03:54:05 pm »
You're wrong, it's exactly the topic. Yang "privileged" nga ang naging ugat ng pag-publish nya ng tweets ng mga woke kids na nangangaway sa kanya. Masyado syang offended na he was called out speaking from a privileged POV.

Bakit ka offended sa pagi-English ng mga woke kids na sinagot si Vice? As you said, privileged kids mga yan so malaking possibility that English is the language they grew up with, that they may be more comfortable with it than Tagalog and not because feeling nila matalino sila dyan.

Kahit ano pang inis mo, yung totoo mong pagkatao ang lalabas sa kung paano ka mag-respond.  Vulgarity is no substitute for wit.

Simple lang for me:
Did Vice crassly brag about his riches? YES.
In doing so, was Vice insensitive to the millions of poor and underpaid workers in the country? YES.
In doing so, was Vice hypocritical to the very idea he preached in his show? YES.

Hindi ako offended sa mga nag-eenglish.

Ang sinasabi ko lang yung mga nagca-callout kay vice na privileged siya are not from marginalized sectors. Mga rich kids din yan na may pang-gastos sa luho. At yang same kids na yan wala yang pakialam sa mga totoong mahihirap basta may pambili sila ng milk tea at starbucks nila.

Paanong hindi sila feeling matalino? Sus kung makapuna nga ng grammar mga yan wagas e. Bastos pa kung magcorrect ng grammar at spelling ng mga tao.

Ang point is hindi naman sila na offend dahil concerned sila sa mga mahihirap, Offended lang sila for no substantial reason. Kung talagang concerned sila sa mahihirap bakit may ginagawa ba sila para makatulong? Sa tingin ko wala kasi kung nagvo-volunteer ka at tumutulong ka sa mahihirap wala kang time pumatol at magbash sa mga tweet ng artista.

Kung si manong pedicab driver o si manong basurero ang nagsabi kay vice na ang yabang mo naman kami nga hirap sa buhay then mas okay pa.


Vice never bragged about his riches in his first post.  Yung mga pagyayabang niya is mga follow-up posts na lang dahil sa mga bashers niya. Saka galing si vice sa hirap. He never said he was elitista/genius/witty or anything. Although di excuse yun maiintindihan mo kung bakit magaspang din ang ugali niya. Siyempre bakla sa kalye yan. You can take the bakla out of the kalye but you cannot take the kalye out of the bakla.

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Re: Latest Showbiz Updates (thread 61)
« Reply #439 on: May 22, 2019, 04:45:15 pm »
Bakit si Vice magtweet lang na magshopping siya dami na nagalit netizens. Pero gustong gusto naman nila panuorin mga shopping hauls, bag raid at house tour ng mga youtubers at celebrities na panay pakita ng mga designer items.

 

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