My shared experienced with a Fake and INCONSIDERATE Buyer

[amazingheart]

 

[calin22]

^hmm hello, di ko na masyado binasa ang post mo sis.. kalahati palang pero eto sis ang masasabi ko sayo. I encountered a lot of buyers like that.. hihingin ang payments details then sasabihin magbabayad ng ganitong oras.. pero wala. hehe Normal yan sis! Hindi sila Scammer kasi wala naman silang natakbong PERA sayo. =) Fake Buyer!?, pwede pero hindi padin eh.. kasi buyer lang siya once may pera na siyang nabigay sayo.. otherwise, nagtatanong lang ang tawag dyan.

Ganito kasi sis, never never expect the a prospective buyer na gagawin niya ang mga sinabi niya. Gawa ka ng RULES and Policy. Tipong ganito, "NO CONFIRMATION within 4 hours, forfeits reservation." Lalo na kung ang alam mo lang sa kanya ay Taga-GT siya.. ni Hindi mo man lang nakuha ang pangalan niya eh so diba.. never never give your contact details to those people na ayaw magpakilala.

ayun Learn from that since newbie ka lang po sa selling.
And sis, normally ayaw ng mga buyers magtransact sa western union or any money transfer, di kasi siya safe at may charge kasi siya.. and One thing, she said sorry nanaman po sis. Di din naman niya kasalanan na nagbrownout sa lugar niyo eh, or totoo man na may dumating na sa bahay nila kaya di siya nakabayad agad.. Dapat palang kasi sis nung may battery ka pa sinabi mo sa buyer mo eto: "Hello sis, mauubos na battery ko.. Kindly confirm nalang within 30mins or cancel ko na po." or sana make the "call".

Lumabas kasi na habol na habol mo sa kanya magbayad siya eh, never argue with that kasi di mo naman mapipiplit na pagbayarin siya eh. ayun lang sis.

[calin22]

^well thats the problem po sis of not having Rules on selling.

and not everyone on GT or kahit san man may so called "Word of Honor". If you as a buyer meron, dont expect others to be like you. Im not siding the other party here pero sis I'll quote you

I hope she can read my testimony here so she can comment. pero etong girl na buyer na eto sobrang na stressed ako ng todo. kayo sis you be the judge. if she's really innocent about the incident. kalokah to the highest level.

What do you want to imply there? Hmm papakita mo na mali siya at tama ka? wag po sana ganun sis. wala naman siyang natakbong pera from you para gumawa ka pa ng ganito. Worst case kung meron, ganun lang po ang ginagawan ng separate thread. hehe.

My last advise for you - Deal with it professionally.

[aquacharly]

I think a seller can avoid aggravation/waste of time/lost alternative buyers if a deadline or payment and confirmation of such is set from the start -- and made very, very clear to a prospective buyer. 

As CALIN22 cited, she wasn't a scammer (kinda harsh to call her that,IMO); but inconsiderate/indecisive  - yes. 

[ElizE]

Tama..anong bang pinuputok ni butsi mo, e wala namang nakuhang pera sayo? Kung nastress ka sa iisang client nayun, aba e hindi yan ang business na para sayo. Hindi porke kinuha na niya ang bank details mo at di tiniloy ang bayad e, scammer na. Scammer siya kung sinabi niya sayo na nakabayad na siya pero wala namang nakarating sayo. Diba?? Siguro nakakaOFF nga talaga na sabihan mo siya na "lolokohin ka niya" kung talagang wala naman siyang balak lokohin ka.

Hindi ka nascam.. No harm done.. Walang perag nawala.. PEACE!

[ms.holly]

the buyer has the right to change her mind and sis Elize is right if you cant consider the buyer's right to reconsider then dont sell anything online. Your texts were harsh really. Just because she inquired about the product and payment details that doesnt mean she'll go for it she still has the option to think it over.

Given that she inquired and reserved it and changed her mind or failed to text doesn't mean she's a scammer take her word for it wala siyang mapapala. And that said scammer din pala majority ng nagiinquire sa online sellers including me. ciempre magiinquire ko to know how much and where and if the payment method is convenient sayo. you need to set your expectations properly lol

I honestly think your really immature hehe PEACE!

[1choi_ko9]

IMHO sis, that's how a "business" work talaga especially through online. First, you cannot force any buyer to buy your item (tama ka don). But customers can also change their minds -- always! Human nature, you think before you buy. Sige sinabi nya na bibilhin nya ang item and she's positive about it, but like I said customer can change their minds same like changing moods.

Second, in my opinion in business, you cannot set your "own standard of expectation". The high expectation you have with your customers, may result to higher disappointment also. Sabi mo, may ibang customer na dapat kukuha nung item mo pero YOU decided not to entertain them kase closed deal na kayo (tama lang din naman yon), but thing is YOU expected right away that nothing can possibly go wrong sa transaction mo with this person you committed to. What if hindi natuloy (like sa nangyari)? Diba you felt really disappointed? Eh kung hindi ka nalang nag expect too much and maybe ask your other customers interested with the item if they want to wait for a day or two if mag push-thru transaction mo with the said buyer. Kung hindi eh di you are free to give the item to others. Atleast as a seller, you gave the buyer a chance to change her mind pa and a chance to see if mag push thru yung transaction. This way, you did not expect much and madisappoint lang.

What if totoo ngang hindi sya makaalis talaga? For whatever reason pa yan totoo man o hindi, Give her the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you are just too stressed with the idea of her getting the item talaga then you were disappointed after all you've been through (brownout, no charge of cell, prospect customers etc) eh hindi rin pala matutuloy transaction mo. Tama, nakakaloka at nakakainis kase hindi nag meet yung expectations mo. Kaya ganyan ka na lang nainis ng sobra.

In business, buyers come and go... that's reality. At least at the end of this all you gave your best, and you just wanted a smooth transaction. But then again, she is just a customer interested with your item -- no "closed" deal is done if no money is involved yet, in my opinion.

[preciosa]

Yes wala kang magagawa jan customer is always right ika nga kapag may business ka dapat mahaba ang pasensya mo sis... As long as no money was involved hindi mo siya pwedeng tawaging scammer... Yan ang hirap din sa ibang sellers... Hindi minsan tinitingnan ang side ng buyers... Hindi nila minsan kasi alam na may emergencies din na lumilitaw... Tapos bigla nalang nila ilalagay sa bogus buyer album
Nila at iddown ang pagkatao mo... Nasabi ko kasi ito kasi minsan ding may nagtangka sakin na ilalagay ako sa bogus buyer album
Niya at ipapahiya sa iba dahil na sa kanya daw ang info ko... Unang una wala akong balak icancel ang deal namin... Nasa palengke nako nun papunta sa tambunting pawnshop kasi dun lang pinakamalapit na gcash na alam
Ko pusanggala pag tingin ko sa bag wala na yung iphone 3g ko para akong binuhusan ng malamig na tubig...  Nag explain ako sa seller pero pinagbintangan niya ko at binantaan... Kaya ayun kahit na broke nako nun pinatunayan ko pa din na wala akong balak maging bogus kaya binayaran kopa din siya... Tapos sasabihin niya sakin pasenxa na daw mainitin ang ulo niya dahil buntis siya... Pinagbintangan niya along sinungaling at gumagawa lang ng kwento... Pero bilib ako sa mga seller na sobrang mahaba ang pasenxa kasi bilang online seller din ako mahaba din ang pasenxa ko at alam
Ko ang pakiramdam ng pakikipag deal online...

[crazycoolchic19]

Shes not a scammer wala namang sya nakuhang item/pera sayo sis,  online seller din ako at marami talagang inquire ng inquire tapos hinde naman din pala sure na bibilhin, nag pa -promise  gantong date ,katakot takot na texting, pero no show sa house ko, hinde ako umaasa  maiistress lang ako, at meron naman buyer na nag inquire, nagconfirm na tapos bigla nawala, tapos bumalik ulit...decided na bibilhin na, bigla na lang pumunta sa house ko, may rights ang buyer na magbago isip pa, kase hinde lang ikaw kina- canvas-san nyan sis. Kung talagang gusto item mo babalikan yan, bibilhin yan! hinde pare pareho buyer wag ka masyado aasa dahil naghahanap yan san sya mas makakamura, hinde hassle sa payment, or kung san mas convenient sa kanya.

Online buyer din ako marami akong kina canvas , kung san makakamura dun ako, yung hinde hassle pag kinuha ko item, yung malapit sa place ko .

Para kasing desperate na desperate kang mabenta item mo, chill lang marami pang customer jan ok.wag ka masyadong aasa o maaatat agad:)).kahit sino mawawalan ng gana syo bumili after ng mga palitan nyo ng text ,  Malay mo nagiisip isip pa si buyer , in a day or 2 makapagdecide na sya, kaso the way you acted mawawalan ng gana si buyer, Peace!

[Kady_14]

I'm an online seller too and true enough madaming ganyan, bago pa lang din ako nagbebenta "online" pero matagal sa mga kakilala.

Don't consider it as a "sure buy" hanggat di ka pa nababayaran. hehe...

Meron din akong ganyan recently hiningi yung details ko and said na she'll get my item. Wala naman dineposit so i gave the item to another buyer. Hindi naman na sya ngparamdam, if ever man i'll tell her na may mas naunang bayad so sorry sya. lol

 

[tabbru]

Binasa ko ang buong post ni TS kasi I was expecting an 'extraordinary' kwento ng experience niya. Nang matapos ko, ang nasabi ko sa sarili ko: "Nyek, yun lang? Naggawa pa talaga siya ng thread para sa napakababaw na pangyayari?"

TS, take it from us... what happened to you is nothing. Inistress mo lang ang sarili mo. Lumalabas talagang desperada ka lang na maibenta yung item mo.

Sa lahat ng negosyo, maliit man o malaki, hanggang di nagkakabayaran (or at least nagkakapirmahan ng kontrata), hindi mo masasabing done deal na yan. Yeah, a lot of things can happen along the way na magreresult ng di pagpush through ng transaction.

Plus you have to live in the real world. At sa real world, hindi lahat ng tao may so-called word of honor. Hindi lahat masipag magtext o considerate.

Tama ang sabi ng mga sis natin dito, newbie ka pa lang sa selling so makaka-encounter ka pa ng sangkatutak na clients na magulong kausap. Someday, tatawanan mo na lang ang post mo na ito.

Btw, kasama talaga sa negosyo ang hassle at inconvenience. You have to live with it.

[beach]

here's what i do when a buyer backs out of a buy transaction:

1) Reply to her: "no problem, thanks for letting me know." and i put a smile pa after... hehe.
NOTE to amazingheart: always keep your cool...  and cut your losses whether sa time, load, or whatever.

2) if via ebay, ban her from my listings so that she can't bid anymore in the future.
3) and if nag-tetext na kami, save her number as "beware "name" so that i am warned just in case she wants to transact with me again in the future.

4) FORGET about the whole incident and concentrate on fulfilling orders from other customers.

[FayeP]

TS, ang haba hehe

harsh nga na tawagin mo un customer na scammer kasi ala naman cya nakuha sayo di ba? nagbago cya ng isip about hte item kaya ganun...di ba tayo din minsan kahit sa tindahan o sa mall, may nagustuhan tayo tapos tatanungin natin kun magkano tapos after ilang sipat eh sasabihin natin, ay wag na lang...

ganun talaga ang pagtitinda ke online or store/shop pa yan...saka malamang naoffend talaga cya sa sinabi mong nanloloko lang cya, kaya ganun di na lang nya kukunin at un nga nagsorry na cya sayo di ba? so let it go na lang

[antagonist]

here's what i do when a buyer backs out of a buy transaction:

1) Reply to her: "no problem, thanks for letting me know." and i put a smile pa after... hehe.
NOTE to amazingheart: always keep your cool...  and cut your losses whether sa time, load, or whatever.

agree ako dito! smiley is always my weapon. kahit iritang-irita na ako while typing my [textspeak!] i make it a point that all my replies are ended with habaan ang pisi. madaming makukulit but you will also be rewarded with buyers na sobrang easy to transact with. sometimes pa nga, kung sino pa yung pinaka-makulit sila pa yung repeat buyers mo.

thankful rin ako that online biz will let you learn patience. kung personal transactions malamang bagsak na ko sa umpisa palang

[macblush]

weeew! ang haba! hehe. I understand your sentiments TS. nakaka upset din naman nga pag ganyan ang buyer ka inconsiderate. todo effort ka tapos deadma naman yong buyer lol!. well ganyan ata pag seller ka. madaming pasaway na buyer.  madali lang naman magtext if incase wala ng plan na kunin ang item. I am a buyer din pero I make sure na ma text ko yong seller if hindi ko na itutuloy ang transaction. para parehas kaming wala ng abala. ayoko ding magbayad pag western kasi may charge e hehe. kaya pag nalaman ko na western lang ang mode of payment sasabihin ko agad sa seller na hindi ko na itutuloy atleast naging honest ako. at considerate buyer naman ako

[pretty empress]

the buyer didn't cause you hassle really.. Ang nag cause sa iyo ng hassle ay ang sitwasyon mo, na nagbrown out at nawalan ka ng contact kasi nga deadbatt, masyado mong na istress ang sarili mo sa pag aalala, kaya nung nagkausap na kayo thru text, sa kanya mo naibunton yung inis mo. Naging offensive yung text mo, you attacked her by saying manloloko.. Ang sikreto ng success online business ay may passion sa pagbebenta, hindi lang kung nakabenta ka o anuman ang dapat mong i consider, kundi pati, kung paano mo itreat ang mga customer mo, chill sis, wag ka sanang mainis sa reply namin..

[Shadow Angel]

^seller and buyer din ako sa online.. Akala ko nga true na scam hindi pa pala.. Bogus buyer pa pwede..from the start dapat clear na talaga sa seller ang deadline kung cut off ay lunch once na wala confirmation i drop na lang ang deal.. Hindi need magpaka stress... Cool lang.. Madami ganyan kaya from the start may rules na agad ako once na walang confirmation kahit pa naibigay ko account ko hindi ko pa rin expect na closed deal yun until nasa akin na ang payment minsan pagganyan at may ibang interested sinasabi ko na naka reserved if willing magwait ang 2nd buyer till makuha na nun 1st buyer meron din ko ganyan madalas nga ang 2nd buyer ang nakakabili.. Ang 2nd buyer pa nga ang nagsasabi na inform sila if hindi kinuha ng 1st buyer.. Isa pa if gusto mo talaga maging seller dapat marami options for payment kaya nga nag open ako ng gcash,smart padala at bank account dapat girls scout lagi handa.. Lalo nankung 1st time magsearch muna kung ano ba ang trend at ano ba ang pros and cons ng selling ang buying sa online.. Ikaw lang talaga maiinis kung hindi mo expect ang mga downsides ng selling..

[oreo08]

I also don't think the buyer was a scammer ang oa naman ni TS... ang scammer eh may nakuha sayo - pera mo or kung nakuha yun binebenta mo ng hindi sya nagbayad. Yun ang scammer.

Next time, kung magbebenta ho kayo ulit, make sure you set a deadline. Example, 3 days reservation lang, kung wala pa ring payment by that time, then you forfeit your reservation. Ganun kadali.

And ingat ingat lang sa tamang hinala... 

[@pichness@]

I agree with the other GTs... Indi porket hiningi na ng potential buyer ang bank details/payment details sure na sure na yun. Naku, marami ka pa maeencounter na ganyan, even worse... Pero siguro nga naistress ka lang. Chill lang. Marami pang ibang bibili dyan, I assure you. Ang pagbebenta ay parang love yan.. Minsan matagal dumating pero kapag dumating na, wag mo na pakawalan! hahaha. Lol. 

[username.taken]

omg. this is hilarious.