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Author Topic: Obligasyon ba talaga ng anak na buhayin ang magulang after nilang makapagtapos?  (Read 13049 times)

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bakit kasi iniisip mong obligado ka? siningil ka ba ng mga magulang mo ng harapan? ^^
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Alam ko dapat hindi obligasyon ng anak yan sa magulang. Hindi naman hiniling ng anak na ipanganak siya eh. Obligasyon ng magulang yun. Bonus na lang yung mag repay yung anak kung maganda pagpapalaki sa kanya ng magulang niya.
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i'm fortunate lang na ang parents ko at age 60 still have work so earning on their own. hindi naman sila umaasa in the future, sinasabi nga ng mother ko they're trying to earn as much ngayon para daw hindi sila pabigat pagtanda nila. of course, pag kinailangan, we will be there for them to support them. pero yun nga, hindi obligasyon.

may friend ako, she's 49 now, and her 1st son is around 24 and kaka-start lang mag-work. tapos humiling sa kanya ng expensive TV, binilhan naman nya. parang gusto nya pang bigyan din ng pang-down sa car. sabi ko nga sa friend ko, he's earning na so he can afford na by himself. eh may isa pa syang anak na nasa elementary pa lang. 63 na sya bago nya pa mapatapos eh. OFW sila ng husband nya eh walang kasiguraduhan ang work. sagot ba naman sa akin, di bale na daw. hindi naman sya pababayaan ng anak nya in the future. umaasa sya na tutulungan sya sa pagpaaaral ng 2nd son nya. umaasa din sya na makakapag-migrate yung son nya at isasama nya at susuportahan sya pagtanda nya.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2012, 02:03:34 pm by leelou »
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same here..nakaka pikon yung sa Parents ko..totoo lang alam ko naman magulang ko sila..pero bakit ganon...parang hinahabol ka pa para tumulong sa kanila.it's not my fault kung dumami kapatid ko..kasi irresponsible sila..di nila maisip mag birth control pills tapos pag nagka problema financial sasabihin tulungan sila..buti sana kung matutulungan rin ako pag na short kami ng asawa ko sa pera,kaso hindi naman..ngayon naka lipat na kami house hindi ko pinapa alam..alam ko sa ibang topic dito may nabasa akong ganito rin,ayaw ipa alam yung house sa parents niya kasi nga magulo rin..buti sana kung mabait,kaso sobrang sungit ng Father ko,as in nakaka pikon..nasa lahi yata namin mataray..pero super siya..aoko na pahabain pero yun nga,,bakit ba ganyan,kailangan kasi tumulong ka sa magulang mo.pag di ka naka tulong sasabhin wala kang utang na loob..ganyan ba pera-pera na lang ba yung pagtanaw ng utang na loob?kaya nainis ako sa Parents ko..nakaka pikon sila..buti sana kung sarili kong pera kaso kay hubby yon..si Hubby hindi naman nagbibigay sa kanila eh.nakakahiya talaga tapos sila pa yung galit,aaw makiusap ng maayos..aabutn ako ng ilang page pag pinahaba ko..pero ako sobrang suffocate na sa ugali ng parents at ba kong relative kaya ayoko talaga makipagusap sa kanila..super negative kasi nila..ang tanda na ayaw pa magbago ng ugali..

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sorry pero dagdag ko lang..hindi parents ko ang nagpa aral ng college sa akin,yung Uncle ko..at kaya ako nag asawa agad kasi dahil rin sa Parents ko kasi nung wala ako work lagi ako pinapagalitan kasi daw kasama pa ko sa pinapakain..grabe naku..ayoko na mag reminisce..

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^That's sad sis. Buti mabait ang asawa mo. Sana hindi naman sya mapuno sa mga paghingi ng family mo. Ask him what he thinks about it para alam mo kung sumasama na ang loob nya. And then if your parents make sumbat sabihin mo nakakabigat na kay hubby mo and ayaw mo umabot sa hiwalayan ka nya dahil sa sobrang paghingi nila. O baka naman humirit pa rin sila dun. :)

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I really hate it when parents have kids for the wrong reasons.  mag-aanak sila madami para marami maggiging caregiver

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Oh my! bakit kaya may ganyang parents. It's good my parents are not like that. I remember na hindi kami inoobliga na magbigay para panggastos sa bahay., pero kusa kaming bumibili ng kahit groceries lang . I really enjoyed my pagkadalaga kasi yung pera ko sa akin lang talaga. Now ,I am doing it to my daughters. Kanilang kanila lang pera nila.

When my mom was already old ( patay na father namin) , we really supported her at nagbibigay kami ng allowance sa kanya kahit di nya sabihin at kahit may pension siya. It's not our obligation to provide for them ,pero  we want to do it because she provided  us well, itinaguyod ang aming pag aaral , reared us well at minahal kami bilang anak at hindi "investment".

Pero still ,they are our parents. Sa mga sisses , kung mayroon naman din kayo, huwag nyo po pagdamutan ang parents nyo.I am sure hindi rin nila kayo pinagdamutan noong mga bata kayo.

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I agree with you snowberry. I am also blessed to have parents who know that children are blessings and that they are responsible to give us better lives. They did everything to raise us well and even na nag work ako before, they didn't ask me to support them kase sabi nila, I don't have to. They're happy to see me independent and not relying on them anymore. Kaya I treat them nlang every payday or give them something that they want but they never ask me to do so. Ako nlang nagkukusa.
My husband naman is baliktad. His parents  rely on him kaya mahirap sa part ko intindihin yung belief nila na he has to give money to them. Sa harapan ko, sinabi ba nman ng father nya na dapat  nga daw my husband should support them. Kaya nagpintig ang tenga ko kaya kay hubby nlang ako ng comment.
Although my husband believes na dapat tulong din at hindi obligation ang pagbibigay, pero i think yung parents nga mismo ang madalas na may fault dito. I don't know kung nasa estado ba sa buhay ang ganitong mentality kase napapansin ko yung mga walang kaya tlaga ang nagdedemand ng support. Hindi naman siguro sa edukasyon (whether educated or not) kase yung mga inlaws ko tapos naman ng college.
Anyway, I still believe that's it's not our obligation to support our parents. Like most sissies here, tulong nlang kung may sobra sa budget lalo na pag may own family na. I wanna be a good parent also to my kids and the best thing i can do sa sa kanila is not to make them feel na I'm using them so i could have a better life in the future.
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Common misconception ng ibang mga magulang kasi yan. They treat their kids like investments. Sabi ng pari sa binyag ng anak ko, wag na wag daw tratuhing investments ang mga anak. Walang masama tumulong sa magulang pero pag nafeefeel mong obligado ka sa lahat ng gastusin nila at ikaw na lang ng ikaw mali naman ata yun.
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IMO, obligasyon buhayin literally kung super oldies na sila, or disabled na, or may malalang sakit etc..   alangan naman pabayaan ko mamatay sa gutom ang parents ko or hindi ko bilhan ng gamot para may pang-travel ako.. o kaya naman naghihihngalo na hindi ko pa dahil sa ospital kasi ayoko bayaran ang bills. so in essense, moral obligation ko iyon bilang anak.

the problem starts IMO when parents and other people for the matter, assumes that children are oblige to MAINTAIN the lifestyle they want/have when they decided, "ay ayoko na magwork"

another problem is when parents PASS ON their responsibilities to their kids .. daming ganito.. never naging obligasyon ng anak na pag-aralin ang kapatid niya, or isabay sa uso ang buonmg pamilya niya.


ngayon if ikaw yung tipong kumikita ng milyones, nakahermes at naka-around the world na,  tapos yung family mo ay nagdidildil ng asin...  oo hindi ka obligado pero aminin, may kadamutang taglay
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IMO hindi responsibilidad ng anak na buhayin magulang nila pag nakatapos....ang magulang ang may responsibility sa mga anak nila na buhayin ito at bigyan ng magandang buhay..pag nakatapos na sila at magkaroon ng pamilya..iyon din gagawin nila sa anak nila...

anaks are not obliged but its one way of showing their parents how greatful they are sa binigay na buhay ng magulang nila sa kanila...ok lang mag bigay ng may kusa pero [textspeak!] uubligahin mo? nega un...
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What does IMO stand for? Wala kase akong nakitang IMO na nag post so I'm wondering if it's a name na hindi lumabas or abbreviated statement:) Sorry, newbie:)
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^thanks!:)

@rianne_mallows. on money matters and supposed na u have your own family, would you still call it moral obligation when old parents have more than enough money in the bank but do not want to spend on themselves knowing that their child will support them?

This is my case kase. I just find it weird lang na they don't spend the money and instead rely on the support of my husband. Although, it's totally fine with me, mejo off lang ako kung moral obligation pa din yun. Although my husband and I see it as our help, but for them it's an obligation.
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^ mistyb, IMO, depende sa situation

- san sila/kayo nakatira? same house? who's house? yours or the parents?

  ok sige example ko na sarili ko.  my parents are more than capable of supporting themselves but since dito ako nakatira sa house nila, OBLIGASYON ko magbigay.. why? nakikigamit ako ng bahay, kuryente, tubig, food, internet, landline etc. now hindi ko obligasyon akuin lahat pero obligasyon ko to PAY my fair share

  ganun din elder sis ko. nag-aabroad at may monthly allowance si mudra. kasi dito din naman siya nakatira with her baby. ang tingin ng ibang tao, sinusustentuhan namin ang aming magulang. bakit pa nga ba eh more than capable naman sila? simple lang naman sagot namin diyan. sa situation na given, iyon ang dapat gawin. 

ngayon sa sinabi mo, mukhang ito yung point ko sa first post ko
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the problem starts IMO when parents and other people for the matter, assumes that children are oblige to MAINTAIN the lifestyle they want/have when they decided, "ay ayoko na magwork"


bakit si hubby mo ang need magsustento eh sabi mo may pera naman? may pera nga ba talaga?
why dont they want to spend their money? ayaw mabawasan? inilalaan for the less fortunate children?
ito pa.. how much are you giving them? enough for all of their needs? more than enough?
how does it affect you and yur family? kinakapos ba kayo? sakto lang? or still even with all that charity eh nag-uumapaw pa din?

okay so may money sa bank. magkano? compute mo, more than a year's worth of basic needs?
san dinadala ba? sa party? sa travel? sa inom? sa sugal? sa pampaaral ng mga kapatid? meds?


madaming points to consider sis. only you can tell kung inaabuso ka na o hindi ;)

 
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^ hubby wants to help his parents kahit na merong small business and money sa bank. It's totally ok with me but the parents believe that the son SHOULD really support them. Kase sinabi sa harapan ko mismo ng dad. Although sinabi ng mum in-law na may money sila sa bank but the dad wants to keep it for their future (for themselves). and the mum knows that the money is really big because the dad makes kwento about the interest of the money in the bank, in fact she once said that a neighbor borrowed from them 60k, and were really surprised. [textspeak!] na silang ping aaral na anak but i think they spend for their grandsons. so ang nangyayari, they spend the money sa grandsons then expect my husband to support their basic needs. we give them more than enough kase they have a small business din, and they have a daughter who works and lives with them (single pa ito). so tatlo lang silang nakatira sa house and they live a very very simple life (yung tipong hindi sila lalabas ng bahay para hindi gumastos).
My point is, we're willing to help but for them, it seems that we are obligated to support them.
I don't think we're being abused naman. As i've said, it's a matter of perspective that we can't change kase nga ganun tlaga mentality nila. My husband naman keeps on saying that's it's a form of help which I agree.
Mejo off lang knowing na they have money in the bank and yet live like they don't have money at all.
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^opinion ko lang sis ha. parang kayo ng husband mo ang mali. the fact that it bothers you, the situation that is, is actually a sign na parang mali diba?

sabi mo may business, can afford pa nga magpautang ng 60k eh. ngayon since sinanay niyo na, i dont think kakayanin mo at ng husband mo itigil na lang bigla ang sustento. baka pwede naman bawasan? meron pa palang nakatirang single sa kanila.  dapat magbigay yun.

pagdadamot ba ito? hindi naman. ako kasi ang tinitignan ko lagi, yung time na ito
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MO, obligasyon buhayin literally kung super oldies na sila, or disabled na, or may malalang sakit etc..   alangan naman pabayaan ko mamatay sa gutom ang parents ko or hindi ko bilhan ng gamot para may pang-travel ako.. o kaya naman naghihihngalo na hindi ko pa dahil sa ospital kasi ayoko bayaran ang bills. so in essense, moral obligation ko iyon bilang anak.


kapag super oldies na sila, may sakit, walang business/source of income, kanino ba sila  tatakbo? eh diba sa anak din nila? 

ok sige, like most sissies here pointed out, dapat pinaghandaan nila yun nung medyo bata-bata pa  sila.   sige kunyari pinaghandaan nila
may insurance - pero nagsara company (prudential?)
may mutual fund/investments sa banks etc - nagsara/nalugi (export bank)
healthcare - yung naging sakit eh hindi covered nung card

ok so ayan ha, hindi mo na masisisi sila kapag ganyan. hindi ka ba tutulong? hindi ba obligasyon tumulong? hindi na ako makikipag-argue dto. tutal kanya-kanya namang POV yan



sis mistyb,  tutal kaya pa naman ng parents ni hubby mo, bawasan niyo ang abot. bakit? kasi mahirap kung sabay sabay kayong "wala"..   ngayon maganda kita niyo, yung ibabawas niyo sa "tulong"  eh ipunin niyo na lang. iyon yung explain mo sa asawa mo kasi mahiap naman kung ikaw lalabas na kontrabida diba?
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^Ok lang tlaga samin mag bigay, yung perspective lang nila tlaga ang hindi ko ma take. Of course, wala nako magagawa dun kaya I said from my previous point, madalas yung parents din ang may fault. Although sinabi ko na yung perspective nila na hindi maganda sa hubby ko, mahirap naman sabihin ng derechohan sa kanila kase matampuhin na tlaga ang mga oldies, lalo na yung dad nya, kaya si hubby palagi sinasabing tulong yun and kapag mejo gipit kme at madaming gastos, for sure yun na matitigil. I just hope the dad would take it in the right perspective when that time comes.
Actually, hindi ko nga din maintindihan kung bakit the dad obliged my hubby to support them pero yung single hindi nila inoobligahan. Malaki din naman ang income nung single. Kaya nga hindi ko maintindihan kung bakit ganun:)
 
sis, thanks for the effort of explaining ha:)
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I super hate this Filipino belief. As in. Buti na lang mom ko di ganito. I give my mom money out of love and respect and dahil gusto ko siya itreat, hindi dahil sa obligasyon.

But my grandparents are a different matter. :( And I used to live under their house, sooo.. kailangan magbigay.
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