Best and Worst Subdivision/Housing Developer(Thread4)

[super bratinella]

New home sis!!

[huit]

yey!!! subscribing.  ano ba sa tingin niyo okay na security program para sa isang subdivision na effective? magkakaroon kase homeowners meeting sa subd namin dahil iiturn over na nag P.A. Alvarez ang subd sa homeowners eh

[winshe]

HELP!!!! I NEED YOUR INPUTS BADLY!!! 


Bumili kami ng bahay sa Profriends in their Carmona Estate Project.  We were under In-House Financing then we decided to transfer it to Pag-ibig Loan.

Last August 20, 2011, na-approve ang Pag-ibig Loan namin.  As per instruction from Pag-ibig, we need to transfer the TCT from Profriends to our name so that they can release the loan.  In lieu to this, nagbayad kami sa Profriends ng:

Php 69,000 ( TCT Cost )
Php 72,000 ( 5 Months Interest ) - Sabi ng Profriends, matatapos ang transferring ng TCT within 5 months kaya kelangan daw namin bayaran ang 5 months na paghihintay...  It is Php Php 14,400 / month...

Natapos ang 5 months na paghihintay namin last January 2012 and upto now hindi pa rin na-ta-transfer ang TCT sa name namin.. Sabi ng Profriends this May pa lang daw kasi lalabas ang Tax Declaration namin..  Akala ko wala na kami babayaran.. Ngayon naniningil na naman sila ng Php 14,400 / months starting Feb until June so that is another Php 72,000 bayad daw sa interest...

May question is, legal pa ba ang sinisingil na ito ng Profriends??  Gusto ko talaga mag-reklamo pero hindi ko alam kung saan at kanino.. Hindi maliit na pera ang hinihingi nila.. Di ko alam kung sadyang pinapatagal nila ang transferring para makasingil sila ng interest.  Hindi ba dapat di na sila naniningil ng interest?? Normal pa ba na umabot sila ng 10 months before matransfer sa name namin ang TCT..  Or cause ng pag-delay ay nasa kanila din dahil hindi nila inaasikaso or kulang kulang docs nila.. Hay!! Anyone can shed light on this or having the same situation like mine??

Please help... Need advise on what to do about it...

[huit]

hindi naman ganun katagal ang pag transfer ng TCT. Na turn over na ba house, like naka move in na ba kayo? I suggest you ask PAGIBIG about it ..under pa naman sila ng PAGIBIG di ba?

[super bratinella]

^^sis, found this one below sa other thread, posted ito ng girltalker "Profriends" ang user baka pwede magtanong para maliwanagan ka..

Dear Valued Clients,

We acknowledge your concern and appreciate that you brought this matter to our attention. In order to help you better kindly provide the information needed below in an email to

marketing@profriends.com:

WEBSITE YOU FOUND THIS POST: (sample: http://www.femalenetwork.com/)
NAME:
PROJECT PURCHASED:
NAME OF AGENT:
DATE OF TRANSACTION:
CONCERN:

We value your business. Your inquiries and concerns will be attended to by a customer service representative.

[sakuramie]

hello sissies!

do you think Asiatic Group of Companies aka Axeia Group of Companies related to Globe Asiatique? We're eyeing The Veraneo kasi in Cavite which is a project of Asiatic Group of Companies aka Axeia Group of Companies. Just want to make sure na magkaiba talaga sila because of the case that Globe Asiatique is currently facing.

[armijd]

Hi Winshe, you need to request for a stop payment, my friend in Carmona estates didn't pay any amount to Profriends for almost a year, same with their neighbor friend, since it's Profriends's fault kung baket wala ka parin TCT or hinde ma complete ang requirements mo sa pagibig.

visit this forum for more feedback regarding requesting a stop payment for carmona estate owners
http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=513970&page=91&p=60523097#post60523097

[jonielle]

hello sissies!

do you think Asiatic Group of Companies aka Axeia Group of Companies related to Globe Asiatique? We're eyeing The Veraneo kasi in Cavite which is a project of Asiatic Group of Companies aka Axeia Group of Companies. Just want to make sure na magkaiba talaga sila because of the case that Globe Asiatique is currently facing.

pagkakaalam ko maam hindi po sila related kakakuha lang din po namin dyan sa The VEraneo maganda po kasi location nya and reasonable nag price compare sa profriends hehe..

jasmine nga pala kinuha namin

http://www.pagibigfund.gov.ph/benpro.aspx

nag search ako maam kinabahan din kasi ako bigla anjan po yung name nung Basic Housing Solutions Inc Accredited sila ng PAGIBIG which is sya yung developer ni Veraneo. Kuha ka na maam para kapit bahay tayo dun

[chedz.03]

Subscribing...anyone na may property kinuha sa provence malolos buacan? Nagsisisi kami bakit kmi ngmadali sa pagkuha ng h&l... first till now hindi pa binibigay samin ang full structural plan ng bahay eh march pa nila ginawa bahay namin. We found out wala pala poste 4 columns ng bahay at ng check ng father ko yesterday walang mga laman ang hollow blocks. tinitipid na ng contractor at nakakainis oa ang engr mismo ng camella masyafo presko! Hay kung pede lang iurong na matagal na namin ginawa kaso nada 500k ndin naibayaf namin at d naman namin pinupulot labg yun

[sakuramie]

thanks sis jonielle! naumpisahan na ba yung house nyo? buti naman at di sila related, napaurong ako about this eh sabi namin ni h2b we will check muna..how's dealing with them naman?

[clueless_girl]

Subscribing...anyone na may property kinuha sa provence malolos buacan? Nagsisisi kami bakit kmi ngmadali sa pagkuha ng h&l... first till now hindi pa binibigay samin ang full structural plan ng bahay eh march pa nila ginawa bahay namin. We found out wala pala poste 4 columns ng bahay at ng check ng father ko yesterday walang mga laman ang hollow blocks. tinitipid na ng contractor at nakakainis oa ang engr mismo ng camella masyafo presko! Hay kung pede lang iurong na matagal na namin ginawa kaso nada 500k ndin naibayaf namin at d naman namin pinupulot labg yun

sad naman yun sis.  diyan ko pa naman plan kumuha ng house and lot. mas maganda talaga kung lot lang tapos ikaw na lang papatayo ng bahay.

[jonielle]

thanks sis jonielle! naumpisahan na ba yung house nyo? buti naman at di sila related, napaurong ako about this eh sabi namin ni h2b we will check muna..how's dealing with them naman?

maam bro po ako hahaha..

hindi pa maam nasisimulan kaka reserved pa lang po namin nung May 19, and yung sa block na nakuwanan namin which is block 8 madami pang vacant ewan ko lang po now sabi po kasi nung agent namin madali daw maubos which is palagay ko naman eh totoo kasi maam yung block 11 and 10 ubos sya agad. Block 11 na po start na yung construction. Hows dealing with them? di ko pa masagot maam bago pa lang po kasi eh hehe

[sakuramie]

haha bro pala..churi! thanks sa inputs bro, siguro pasyal kami ulit dun before this month ends.

[chedz.03]

sad naman yun sis.  diyan ko pa naman plan kumuha ng house and lot. mas maganda talaga kung lot lang tapos ikaw na lang papatayo ng bahay.

sis maganda sana yung village problem lbg tlg sa constructiob ng bahay,andami pala reklamo ng home owners. If plan mo kumuha sa in house agent ka at itanong mo lhat bago k pumirma. Alam ko pwede lot lang tapos ikaw magpapatayo kaso syempre ang ganid
 na agent ang sabi samin walang lot lang puro h&l pero may jome owner kami nakausap may nakakakuha daw lot lang...

[leana]

mga sis question..possible ba na ivisit yung property kahit wala pa yung contract? yung security ba ng subd. papapasukin kami? Thanks in advance!

[simple_elegance]

We live in a village that Brittany Corp. developed. Very beautiful and peaceful. I especially like that their projects are themed and the utilities (meralco and pldt lines) are underground so no cables that are an eyesore. This is actually our 2nd property with them. Our other one is a condo unit near Greenbelt in Makati and within this year we're hoping to get another from them at the BGC.

[chedz.03]

Update: dumating na father ko sa pinas who's an ofw. Batikan na sya when it comes to construction abroad and pinuntahan nya ang ginagawang house namin. As expected, disappointed sya sa paggawa ng bahay namin. Kaya pinuntahan nya ang engineer ng camella to explain everything. Nung una mahangin pa ang dating nung engr nangangatwiran pa pero nung nagdrawing na ang tatay ko kung ano ang dapat sa bahay namin eh nag lie low yun kayabangan. Pinatawag din ang engr mg contractor. In the end since di na naman mahahabol yun pinaka pundasyon ng bahay eh pinalakihan nalang ni father ko yun mga ilalagay pa na bakal para tumibay.

Medyo bumilis din ang gawa ng bahay ngayon saka nagdagdag ng tao. Sabi nga ng tatay ko dapat din sa kanila hindi dinadaan sa pagiging mabait kasi aabusuhin ka.

[armijd]

Hi guys, expect nyo na po na kahit gaano pa kasikat ang developer or ka low end and housing, meron mangyayaring sablay sa construction, first and foremost, they just hire contractors na tinipid nila ang labor since maramihan ang gawa. Ang mga contractors sad to say are mostly bara bara sa pag gawa, kasi hinde naman nila bahay yan, kung meron man honest sa pag gawa nila without anyone checking up on them, then wala pako nababasang reviews about them. Diba pag nagpagawa din naman kayo ng bahay on your own, you'll be checking up on them everyday, because if not tatagalan nila yung trabaho nila or may mga titipirin or nanakawin na materials etc, so ganun din pag through developer. Yun na nga lang magpagawa ka ng mga installed cabinets sa bahay mo from a carpenter will take days pag hinde mo binantayan, sakit na sa ulo yan, how much more kung buong bahay na ang usapan. sabi nga nila kung naghahanap ka ng sakit ng ulo, magpatayo ka ng bahay.

Anyway, meron tayo mga checklist na available, hope this helps, note that not all items applies sa bahay nyo, tignan nyo nalang kung ano pwede mag apply na checklist for your homes, i got this sa PEX Profriends, salamat sa isang user na ubod ng OC

the list mostly applies to Profriends housing, but there are other items sa checklist na pang general, hope this helps you guys sa pag gawa ng inspection checklist nyo

Inspection Checklist (During Construction) -

1. The 4-inch thick Ground Floor PCPs should be vertically aligned with the 4-inch thick Zocalo Wall Footing (or at least more than 2 inches or at least 3 inches).
2. If the unpainted PCPs have cracks, make sure that these are surface cracks only, and not penetrating cracks. If these are surface cracks, PFI should make sure that these are repaired using Mortabond Mortar Repair and not just Mortabond Skim Coat.
3. The gaps between PCPs, floor slab, and ZWF should be no more than 1 inch (at least that's how I prefer it to be ).
4. Make sure that a waterproofing sealant (PFI uses NovSeal) is applied on the PCPs before painting.
5. Before the Flexboard ceilings are installed, visit the unit on a sunny day and make sure that no light is passing thru the long span roofing.
6. The inside walls and surfaces of the septic tank should be properly plastered, as well as the septic tank to its top part. The top part's surface should be even and smooth.
7. The 2 covers of the septic tanks should be square in shape.
8. The shape of the septic tank should conform according to specifications. (The unit in front of my unit has an irregular and uneven shape septic tank. Even my Finishing Contractor noticed this. Finishing Contractors do not build septic tanks.)
9. The center of the toilet bowl should be 1.05 meters from the middle of the PCP shower wall so that the shower would not be so near the toilet bowl, according to plan. (I've seen some which just measures 0.9 meter). However, ideal distance is 1.10 meters from the surface of the shower wall tiles. (If you can convince your Finishing Contractor to adjust it, the better)
10. The bottom edge of convenience/electrical outlet plates should be 0.30 meter from the floor, so that that when the homeowner decides to have a thick flooring like granite tiles, there would be enough height left.


Inspection Checklist (After Construction/RFO Unit)
1. Surfaces of PCPs should be even and smooth, as wall as the floor slabs.
2. Check for termite infestation in the unit's wooden parts (doors, door jambs, kitchen counter cabinet doors, eaves vents).
3. There should be no broken ceramic tiles in the bathrooms and kitchen counter.
4. Check for roof leaks and wall seepage asap after a hard rain.
5. Before the water supply is connected, make sure that the supply or stop or shut off valves of the water closets and lavatories are all tightly connected.
6. Metal parts (e.g. windows, balcony railings, stairwell railings) should have no rust.
7. Locks (i.e. door knobs and deadbolt locks) should be properly installed. Make sure that these could not be opened other than the intended keys.
8. Lavatories should be properly installed, and would not fall off easily.
9. Faucets and showers (inside the house) and the hose bib (outside the house) should not have leaks.
10. Check for plumbing leaks.
11. Kitchen counter cabinet doors should be smooth and do not have splinters.
12. Make sure that upon unit turnover, PFI has already laid out the underground PVC pipe that would accommodate the Meralco cable leading to Circuit Panel Board.
13. The post that would hold the Meralco meter, service drop cables, drip loop, etc, should be constructed weeks before the homeowner applies for a Meralco service.
14. Light switches (single, 2-gang, 3-gang, 3-way switches), lighting outlets, electrical outlets (convenience, waterproof convenience, ACU, range, and refrigerator outlets) should be functioning properly.
15. Water pressure should be enough that there is water supply for the showers.
16. Water closets should be functioning properly that waste materials and fluids would be flushed out on the first flushing.
17. Rainwater should properly run thru the roof rain gutter towards the downspout. If there is ponding, the rain gutter is not properly constructed.
19. Make sure that rainwater does not collect on the balcony (also called ponding). The drain pass should be towards the front and back parts of the balcony floor.
20. Metal parts (balcony railings, steel casement windows, stair handrails) should be properly welded.
21. Surfaces that have been skim coated and painted already should not be flaking off. It this is peeling off, it was not properly applied. The surfaces should be wet before the skim coat is applied. (I've seen RFO units with skim coats peeling off).


To-Do
Ask from Engineering Office
1. Perimeter of the unit owner (up to where)?
2. Blueprint copy
3. Restrictions
4. Gate designs
5. Certification (in lieu of Certificate of Occupancy) – for MERALCO

Follow up current issues
1. Window alignments, gaps and cannot be closed
2. Door gaps and cannot be closed
3. Uneven or wavy walls
4. Broken pipes on the drainage
5. Not well-cemented behind pipes
6. Water pipe showing?

Checklist
Walls:
- Surfaces of PCPs should be even and smooth, as well as the floor slabs
- Surfaces that have been skim coated and painted already should not be flaking off

mortabond mortar repair ang gamitin sa pagrepair ng cracks at hindi ordinaryong semento at buhangin na pinagawa ng Fabrication engineer


Doors and Cabinets:
- Check for termite infestation in the unit's wooden parts (doors, door jambs, kitchen counter cabinet doors, eaves vents).
- Locks (i.e. door knobs and deadbolt locks) should be properly installed. Make sure that these could not be opened other than the intended keys.
- Kitchen counter cabinet doors should be smooth and do not have splinters.

Roof and Ceiling
- Check for roof leaks and wall seepage during/right after a hard rain.

Plumbing
- Before the water supply is connected, make sure that the supply or stop or shut off valves of the water closets and lavatories are all tightly connected.
- Check valves?

Windows and Stairs
- Metal parts (e.g. windows, balcony railings, stairwell railings) should have no rust and should be properly welded

Drainage
- Rainwater should properly run thru the roof rain gutter towards the downspout. If there is ponding, the rain gutter is not properly constructed.

Exterior, Electricity, Water
- Sealant and paint below the ground
- Paint should not be peeling off
- Meter post
- Underground PVC pipe that would accommodate the Meralco cable leading to Circuit Panel Board.

[mommy gwen]

hi! anong mas ok? avida po camella?

[piatos]

^^ sis ano yung PCP?