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I need advice! Please help!!
« on: February 15, 2012, 11:22:23 pm »
Need ko po ng enlightenment kung ano dapat gawin sa situation namin ng live in partner ko...may anak kami mag 2yrs old na at may sakit pa sa puso..gusto ko ma-save relationship namin pero parang ayaw niya na..ganito kasi nangyari...nag-away kami sa mismong bday ko last 2 weeks ago,maliit na bagay lang pinagmulan...ayaw niya ko tulungan maghugas ng plato para sa gagamitin ng bisita kasi malinis pa naman daw yun kasi 1 week lang na-stock sa estante...sabi ko isipin naman niya mga pamilya ko kakain dun gusto ko malinis,,nagpapatulong lang naman ako kasi 2 lang kami tao sa bahay at ako na nagluluto at madami na ginagawa..ayun nagsasagot na sakin,bawat salita ko pinipilosopo..hindi ako sanay ng ganun sa kanya kasi bihirang bihira kami magkasagutan ng ganun infact last year april pa yung medyo matindi naming ayaw...maayos kaming nagsasama...gulat na lang ako nung mismong bday ko pa ako binastos ng ganun at sobrang sama ng loob ko,,hanggang sa ayaw niya tumigil sa kasasagot sakin..nabato ko yung sandok na hawak ko,nilapitan ko,me sinabi pa rin,nasuntok ko sa braso,me sinabi pa rin hanggang sa gigil na ko ayaw tumigil eh sinipa ko..ayun tumigil..simula nun di na kami nagpansinan,umaasa ako na siya ang mag-sosorry dahil siya nagsimula nun at ang sakit ng loob na dapat di niya ko ginanun sa mismong bday ko...ang sama sama ng loob ko..pero natiis niya ko...the night before valentines grineet niya ko ng happy valentines...so akala ko ok na..handa kong kalimutan atraso niya,,pinaglaba ko na siya uli,nagprepare ng dinner..pero pag-uwi niya di pa rin siya namansin..di ko na napigilan kausapin siya tinanong ko,,anong balak mo???tuloy pa rin natin to??binalik niya sakin tanong sabi ko gusto ko na ayusin kasi maliit na bagay lang pinagmulan at naaawa na ko sa anak namin sa sitwasyon namin...pero sabi niya sinanay ko daw siya ng ganun walang pansinan..napaisip daw siya, need niya daw ng time, pero sabi niya di naman daw niya pababayaan suporthan anak namin,,,gulat ako biglang ganun na salita niya..na-fe feel ko na gusto niya na makipaghiwalay...ang sakit! kasi inaayos ko tas siya pang lalaki ang ma-pride samantalang maliit na bagay lang yun na kung tutuusin siya naman may kasalanan...hindi niya daw makalimutan pananakit ko kasi last year nahampas ko rin siya sa sobrang galit...pero bat ganun na lang reaction niya,ang tagal namin hindi nag-away tas yun lang gi-give up na siya...ayaw niya daw ng pagsasamang may pananakit...ngyon lang naulit yun,,di ko maintindihan bat masyadong big deal na sa kanya...paalis siya papuntang qatar 2 months siya dun at gusto niya ganto pa rin sitwasyon namin....ano ibig sabihin nito??end na ng relationship namin??bat aalis siya ng hindi kami ayos??gulong gulo ako hindi ko maintindihan kung ano gagawin ko bat over naging reaction niya,,lahat ng pag-aasikaso ko at mabuting maybahay binalewala niya lahat,nasa kanila lang ng anak ko lahat ng oras ko pero bat parang ang sama sama ko dahil lang sa ganung nangyari..ayaw niyang kalimutan at magpatawad..ano ibig sabihin na need niya ng time mag-isip??aalis siya ng hindi kami ayos :( ang sakit sa loob...break up na ba to??

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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 01:34:13 am »
sis, if you dont mind me asking wala ka bang napapansing kakaiba sa asawa mo? hindi kaya may iba siya? kasi nakakapagtaka lang kung bakit ganon na lang kadali sa kanya ang makipaghiwalay knowing na may anak kayo at matagal din namang nagsama. may asawa din naman ako nag aaway din kami ng mas grabe pa sa away niyo pero hindi naman kami umaabot sa ganyang hiwalayan,. ewan ko sis ha? nung nabasa ko kasi post mo unang pumasok sa isip ko baka may iba siya kaya malakas ang loob niya. siguro dapat maging keen observer ka, watch mo yung mga galaw niya baka may something.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 09:12:23 am »
@ sis mamajus - in my POV (point of view) dapat sa pagsasama live-in or kasal pag may hindi kayo pinagkakasunduan try not have a physical abuse kahit babae ka or lalaki ka once kasi na nasaktan nyo ang isa physically, mawawala na ang respect niyo sa isa't isa. In a relationship it should a respect also, 2nd sana nakausap ka ng palambing na my pini please mo sya example " hon pwede mo ba akong tulungan please bday ko naman eh" at i appreciate mo sya in every little things na ginawa nya, kung ayaw nya pa rin ikaw na talaga sis ang gumawa. 3rd mali rin na nagbato ka ng gamit sa kanya try to control your emotion paggalit ka best way is to pray to enlighten ka sa lahat ng bagay kung tama ba or mali gagawin mo. and 4th sis dapat suyuin mo sya dahil ikaw ang prob dahil hot temper ka masyado at sabi mo nga napaka petty ng fight nyo pera pinaabot ninyo to end na maghihiwalay, try to weigh everything kung talagang iwowork out nyo pa ang relatuionship nyo at try na ang last sort nyo is maghiwalay, kawawa kasi ang anak nyo dahil nagumpisa kayo ng mali at matatapos kayo sa mali (no offence).  :-[

Last lahat ng bagay nasosolve sa isang magandang paguusap na walang halong init ng ulo, kung di maiwasan try to make a a good love letter with gift ;D
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Re: I need advice! Please help!!
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 11:41:53 am »
@mamajus,

opinion lang..

i agree to candid_girl, there's no way or reason for you to get physical, married or live in does not give you the right to hurt your partner physically - for you hubby i think it turns him off! it shows off you "ugali".

kahit may anak kayo and may sakit it doesnt mean na hindi ka na niya pedeng hiwalayan lalo na at hindi naman kayo married. he will always be the father of your daughter anyway..so no big deal!

hindi porket hindi kayo nag aaway or wala kayong major fight eh happy c patner sayo at wala kayong problem..men are usually not the type na confrontational unless they are being pushed to their limits, it so happen at that time maybe he can't stand you nagging him! or napuno na siya..

hindi rin naman basehan kung gaano kayo katagal na nagsasama para hindi maghiwalay, since live in lang kayo..parang nasa trial error phase kayo..to continue or to stop, kung hindi magkasundo or masaya at may mahanap nang iba, its more easier to say goodbye nga!

or maybe , humanap lang ng chance ang patner mo para maka kita ng butas sayo para hiwalayan ka na or humingi ng space..tama sis sis beatrice zuri..baka may iba na ang patner mo and be observant s mga moves niya..baka he wanted an easy way out, and that is to put the blame on you!

or lastly----maybe he fall out of love! if wala namang 3rd party involve s kanya..







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Re: I need advice! Please help!!
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2012, 12:12:07 pm »
opinion ko lang po ha, men are men. They have ego. And their ego most of the time is so big na dapat iniingatan, mali man sya na pikunin ka on your birthday, masmali na pinatulan mo sya more so physically saktan. Kung sa ating mga babae masmasakit masaktan emotionally, feeling ko sa lalaki masnakakababa ng pagkalalaki na saktan sila physically. Its disrespectful, demeaning, and ego-crushing.

Whether live in or married no one should hurt each other physically. Man or woman. Feeling ko naturn off ang partner mo or natakot sa pagkahot tempered mo. Bilib ako di ka nya pinatulan.

I'd say give him the space he wants and needs. Show him you are sorry, that is if you really are. We are women and one of the gifts that were given to us is pagiging understanding and emotional. And kung magbibigay man tayo magbigay at magmahal tayo ng buo wag yung may sumbat na pinagsilbihan naman kita tapos wrong move ko lang ayaw mo na. Lets step backward and look at the bigger picture din.

Ito ang natutunan ko after being married for 1year and a half palang dahil dati tulad mo din ako. And now our marriage is smooth sailing, finally!!!

Btw, di pumasok sa utak ko na may iba ang partner mo. Hopefully wala.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2012, 12:14:35 pm by jesrora »
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2012, 02:48:09 pm »
To the OP:

Parang may kakambal ka dun sa isang forum. May pagka warfreak. Anyway, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, kasi meron naman talaga tayong mga moments na hindi tayo makapag pigil...Pero, ilang taon ka na nga ulit? The way you explain your background, parang ang dami mo nang napagdaanan, especially with a sick child, pero at the same time medyo sablay nang konti ang maturity.

Let me analyze ha. Nagbirthday party ka, may bisita kayo, madumi ang plato, gusto mong linisin, nagpatulong ka, hindi ka tinulungan, nagtampo ka, hindi pinansin ang tantrums mo, kaya binato mo ng sandok, kahit siguro napahiya na yung tao at nangigigil na sayo, nagpigil sya at di ka pinatulan, nainis ka lalo kaya mo sinuntok sa braso, tapos sabay tadyak for good measure...Pagkatapos ikaw yung nagiintay na lambingin ka at mag apologize sya sayo? Para ano? "Hon, I'm sorry hindi ko ibinigay kung kabilang braso ko para suntukin mo, tsaka next time luluhod ako para pati balls ko masipa mo"

Uh, hello.

Teka ano nga pala ang nagpipigil sayo to apologize first for your temper tantrums and your physical assault?

Gosh kung sa babae ginawa yung ganun, sandamakmak na siguro ang nag advise sa babaeng yun na hiwalayan ka at ipapulis ka. Tama yung sabi nung iba, mag apologize ka nang todo, dapat marealize mo kung ano yung mali na ginawa mo, bago mo i-expect na marealize nya yung mali (kung meron man talaga) na ginawa nya...Wag mong bigyan ng reason yung partner mo to look outside of your relationship for satisfaction, happiness or contentment, or at least man lang the confidence sa kanyang pagka lalake. Give each other space while praying to high heavens that he gives you another chance.

Sorry ha, siguro merong mga magagalit sa akin for my post, pero parang kailangan somebody gives the OP tough love kumbaga.

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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 03:03:14 pm »
I agree with amethyst028.
Di porket di nag-aaway wala ng problema. Baka may issues siya pero hindi siya confrontational tapos yung nangyari sa inyo probably validated his feelings.

When he said he wanted space pumayag ka ba?

Di kasi namen made-define kung ano yung ibig sabihin ng space ng partner mo. Siya lang yung makakapag-define nun. So ask him and ask yourself what you want as well.

Medyo contradicting kasi yung sinasabi mo. Sabe mo maliit na bagay lang pero ni-isa sa inyo hindi nagawang mag-sorry. Na-tiis ninyo yung isa't isa. Ibig sabihin, may underlying issues na hindi petty.

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2012, 04:11:14 pm »
You need advice, you need help?

Masakit ito, darling pero....

1.   Hindi ka tumigil sa pag banat mo sa kanya physically until he stopped making you pikon.
      Kung dadah pa sya, umabot ka kaya sa pag salpak mo ng ulo nya sa burner?
      Kung hawak mo knife -- nasaksak mo kaya sya sa tindi ng pikon mo?
      Hwag  tayo sana maging friends, kasi  alaskadora ako;   baka mapikon ka.... Lol
      Hindi mo ba matalasan yang utak mo para tumalas dila mo kesa gumagaan yang kamay mo sa
      pananakit?
      What do you call him.. Hon? Eh di mas karapat dapat tawag:  Honboogs... Binubugbog eh. Lol

2.    My lola says that Love gives freely, with no intent of collecting.
       In Tagalog: ang pagmamahal ay hindi  exchange gift,  hindi kris kringle.

3.    Na niningil ka sa pag work mo sa house?  Eh kinu-wenta mo, so may intention ka maningil.
       Magkano kaya sweldo para sa all-around/cook/cleaner dyan sa bahay nyo?
       Let's push  the envelope --  how much per f-ck ba charge ng pokpok? Depende, hahaha.
       Mas magastos pokpok + helpers?  Hindi naman sya mabugbog. Hindi sya mainsulto sagad buto -
       yun yun pag binugbug que babae or guy.

4.   Be honest.  Mahal mo pa sya truly or truly kelangan mo sya mahalin kasi kelangan mo ng
      financial support?

5.   A mother is forever a mother. Ang father -- they can choose to walk away.
      Wag mo ever isipin na kasi ganun ang daughter mo, or como may anak kayo  -- he has to take it.
     
ADVICE?   Stop being a physically abusive person.
Sino susunod? Yang anak mo paglakilaki?
Control your temper.   

Learn to accept you are not perfect.  Who is, anyway?
Para makayanan mo mag "sorry".   
Para makayanan mo makita may pagkakamali ka rin, kahit na on your birthday.

Mag sorry ka, and tell him you will change for the better.
Ask for another chance.
Mahal ka pa nyan, konti.
Sinabihan ka of his plans, he wants space.   Ang iba, basta mawawala.
So it is not yet too late.

Kung napikon kita, sorry. I just wanted to be frank. Pero kung balak mo kong batukan, hwag ka na mag attempt.  Mahirap ako matuntunan kasi masyado akong busy,  layas at kaladkarin.

Kidding aside, pray for Divine Guidance.   
     






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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2012, 05:23:34 am »
Sorry mga sis pero maiba lang ha..

Hurting your spouse once does not make you a physically abusive person. It's a wonder mamajust hasn't replied yet to your posts. I can understand na sometimes kahit maganda ang approach mo, may mga taong ipupush ka sa limit mo hanggang magretaliate ka. Some men may not physically abuse you pero verbally, mas masakit yun e.

Sis mamaju, eventually makikita mo rin yang side ng partner mo, and I at least know you now.

I also experienced this when I was sick last week. Pinaghain ko pa rin ng breakfast. Nagchurch ako. When I got back I was so weak I asked if he could cook me some soup just in addition to our ulam but he refused. I balked and complained he doesn't appreciate what I do. So he threw away our ulam sa trash sa inis nya sa tirade ko.

Maybe it's wrong pero I slapped him. And he slapped me  back. I packed up my things and took my kid to my parent's house.

Small things lang. Pero marami nang pinanghuhugutan na maliliit na bagay until it will just blow up.

Sino hindi magagalit pag kakain mo nlang itatapon pa? And he was just watching TV when I was asking nicely. I was even making my own food na and he still went and threw it away.

maybe I should make my own thread na. haist. For those who left home... or those left behind...
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2012, 09:14:12 am »
I agree with other sisters here. regardless ano pa yan never ever use physical violence. lalo na lalaki yan. malalaki ego ng mga yan. sa lahat ng ayaw nila yung sasaktan sila. buti nga di ka nya ginantihan. liek what they said, lahat nadadaan sa magandang usapan. you need to control your temper kahit anong sama ng sinasabi nya, there will be no solution if sasalubungin mo yung galit. kame ni husband we tend not to do that (magsalubong ng galit). If alam namin na for example, mainit pa ako, di muna uuwi yan. dun muna sa MIL ko, which is fine kasi nagkakaron kame ng space to think and breathe. then pag okay na kame, saka na sya uuwi. pinakamatagal na namin na away na ganun is 2 days. but we talk things out without being dramatic and all. we just tell each other bakit kame nainis with each other. ang mga lalaki kasi let's face most of them are like babies. makulit.. but you need to use your charm. and whenever na naiinis ka sa mga sagot nya, labas ka muna. lakad ka to clear your mind. kasi if galit ka rin, then di talaga kayo magkaka ayos. syempre mga pride and ego nyo ang iiral. one thing i learned being with somebody is learn when to backdown. like what you said, last year nasaktan mo na rin sya. ako i will admit i seeked professional help kasi i used to be like you. I can't control my temper. and i was told to do some things to help me calm down. if he said he needs space, let him. give him the space he needs. but before he go, let him know how you feel (please avoid being hysteric and avoid lots of crying, men hate that). tell him directly how you feel about him leaving na di kayo magkaayos. tell him you will give him space that he needs but you will be waiting for him. and no matter what his decision will be, you will respect that. just ready yourself. and think of ways how will you survive if in case ayaw na nya. wag mo muna isipin na baka meron na syang iba. may mga lalaki lang talaga na ayaw nila na sinasaktan sila ng babae lalo na di nila ugali to him a girl back. and PRAY. never forget to pray. walang impossible kay God. If it really meant to be, it will fall in its own place at the right time. dont push things, seek God's help.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2012, 07:39:49 pm »
Whether it is done once or more, physical abuse is physical abuse. Whether a person did that only once or more, that person is a physical abuser.  Do not confuse a bad act with forgiveness nor tolerance; those are 3 different concepts.

If  there is anything the generation of our mothers learned and passed on to us, it is that there should be equality of genders.  What is a bad act for a man, goes for the woman too.   

I have been reading for 2 years through the posts here.  It has been repeatedly proven true by real-life experiences posted here that most bad relationships and marriages are plagued by the lack of good communications.  People  in a relationship who both do not learn to communicate with each other positively/effectively will really do themselves the greatest service by re-thinking the relationship &/or  dissolving any plans to marry.   In business, people who cannot  communicate their ideas effectively do not advance. So it should be with relationships. 

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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2012, 05:16:21 pm »
Hello mamajus,

MAG SORRY KA KAY PARTNER MO. Maling mali un. I used to be physically abusive sa mga partners ko, pero Thank God at nkapag move on na ko.

Ikaw naman [textspeak!] nag start ng fire na yan. Bka naman tinatamad [textspeak!] kc sya gumawa ng house chores nun. Im not saying na thats ok, pero kung ikaw un tinatamad na un bka nga you might get away pa with a little lambing lang kay partner. Give him a break teh.

Ikaw na gumawa ng paraan pra magka ayos kayo, kesa lalo pa yan lumaki and you will not like it.

Good luck sis. Pamper urself muna if you feel na medyo mahirap ang pag lunok ng pride. Try mani-pedi spa combo pra medyo gumaan pakiramdam mo.  :)
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2012, 10:13:34 am »
IMO, baka may ayaw sya sa family mo na bisita nyo. Baka naman may something na hinde lang nya masabi sayo kaya hinde ka nya gusto tulungan na hugasan yung kakainan nila. Try mo muna tanungin kung may problema ba na mas malalim pa dun sa pag-utos mo sa kanya. Baka for him hinde nya gusto gawin yung paghugas ng plato kasi may sama sya ng loob sa kamag-anak mo na hinde pa nareresolve. The fact na parang hinde sya matigil sa pagsasalita ibig sabihin may kinikimkim sya. Kung financial like sa paghahanda mo sa birthday mo baka gumastos ka talaga or yun sa magiging bisita nyo. As you said ok naman pagsasama nyo at naging ganun lang sya nung birthday mo. Tanungin mo sya kung anung problema nya. :)

 

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