Author Topic: yayang alis ng alis (Read 1605 times)

periwinkle_room · « **on:** October 26, 2011, 09:25:36 pm »

i would love to hear the opinions of all the other moms out there.

our daily schedule is, yaya gets baby from me around 8.30am. i do my thing until lunch time. then she hands baby to me so she can have lunch. she gets baby again until 8pm when she has dinner. i also get my baby from her when i breastfeed.

here's the thing. when she started work, i told her ang day off that i allow is once a month only. for this month alone, she has been absent so many times already. puro biglaan pa. she'll usually tell me (not ask ha, TELL) she needs to leave asap coz yada yada yada. in her mind siguro, okay lang because i don't call her na from 8pm till the next day. so she'll leave tonight, then come back tomorrow... ganun.

so far, okay naman sya with my baby. may kapalpakan but very minor.

my question is, should i deduct those hours that she spends out of our house kahit na i don't call her naman during those hours?

thanks to all those who will reply. really appreciate it.

anneG · « **Reply #1 on:** October 27, 2011, 10:50:55 am »

teka! anong name ng yaya mo sis? matagal na sayo? kasi nung oct.16 pinaalis na namin si yaya ganyan ganyan ang drama niya, ang pinagkaiba lang gusto niya twice a month day-off nya overnight na hindi naman ako nag agree kasi i cannot assure na wala kaming adult na lakad every month. Yung sa amin 1.5mos pa lang more than 5x na lumabas kaya nung oct1 & 7 na binigla na naman niya kami na lalabas siya nag fall na siya sa salary deduction, kelangan gawin kundi sobrang abuso na. alangan naman isa sa amin ni hubby ang maubusan ng leave sa kakalabas niya. May ka livein siyang tomboy. read mo yung nobela ko sa kabilang thread.

aquacharly · « **Reply #2 on:** October 28, 2011, 07:53:20 am »

^^better start looking for a new yaya -- tapos, bulagain mo din yan.

Claro usapan nyo, tapos oraorada ka sasabihan? Believe me, hindi yan titigil dyan -- she will become nore abusive with her sudden declaratios -- lalabas ako.

The reason I keep a tight hold on my yayas -- kasi, dependability is critical when it comes to child care. Yang off nang off -- kahit na ba you do not call her after 8pm -- renders her less efficient/dependable. Ano ginagawa pag off overnight? Work? Pasyal? Eh di napupuyat, eh di napapagod instead of resting and being refreshed & alert, and that affects the quality of her work the next day. Kung puyat or pagod yan -- eh di slow, baka masungit pa or less patient, less thorough gawa.

Atchaka -- yang labas ng labas kung saan nagpupunta -- na expose yan to cold viruses, etc etc. O tapos
ipapasok sa bahay mo?

You are in an uneviable position of having the luxury now of staying home. Use it well, work on getting a good and dependable yaya you can rely on long-term.

periwinkle_room · « **Reply #3 on:** November 06, 2011, 03:09:03 pm »

@AnneG: August pa sya start sa amin so hindi same person.

@Aquacharly: Yes, I'm thinking na of letting her go. But when I do, should I let her know na ang reason is because of yung mga biglaan nyang 'family emergencies' and day offs na biglaan din? Or better invent some other excuse na lang. Ayaw ko kasi yung, when I let her go, she'll say, emergency lang kasi, di na mauulit, then magmamakaawa na ipa stay.

aquacharly · « **Reply #4 on:** November 06, 2011, 05:07:02 pm »

^naku alam nya na kung baket you will show her the exit door. Kung makikiusap yan, at maawa ka... haynako, betcha ha, ikaw bulagain nyan 1 fine day. basta hindi na lang babalik, eh di inconvenienced ka to the max.

Kaya mabuti pa, habang andyan pa yang si Annie Batungbakal (lol, may kanta yon di ba, yun ang tawag nang old yaya namin sa mga off ng off na biglaan na mga helpers sa bahay ng mommy ko) -- maghanap ka na ng kapalit. tapos bulaga! magbakasyon ka na Annie, matagal...

you gotta be practical at times, and if it means you gotta be inconsiderate, eh ganon ang buhay ngayon eh... they started it, Senator Pimentel. Kumusta na kaya his bill for domestic helpers.

sarahsensible · « **Reply #5 on:** January 28, 2012, 09:55:42 pm »

May 2nd yaya kami na kararating lang nung New year.
Sa amin okay lang day off basta hindi sila sabay nung isang yaya.
Problema ko dito, kabago bago dito bigla biglang lumalabas at hindi sya sa akin nag papaalam..kundi sa LOLA ko! pero ang nag papsweldo sa kanya AKO!

Lalabas sya sasabihin nya mag papa pawis lang -- pero mawawala more than 30mins. Kabago bago nya dito sa lugar namin.

aquacharly · « **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2012, 08:45:33 pm »

Be careful with that new yaya. Bakav scouting for exit routes, or for potential new amo with better salary.

sarahsensible · « **Reply #7 on:** January 31, 2012, 09:06:13 pm »

^good news! nag day off sya, then told her wag na syang babalik. Tapos ang problema ko.

maiandra · « **Reply #8 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:47:13 am »

yup super abusive mga ganyang yaya. Mine had one day off a week at umaabuso pa. Siya daw pipili ng off nya. At first lenient kami pero in the end pinayagan ko sya mag off ng maaga tapos keso kinalimutan na lahat ng responsibilidad nya at di na bumalik til the next day. Pinalayas ko nga at sinabi ko pa na wag na nyang balikan mga damit nya at kung ano pa magawa ko sa kanya. (pero of course I had to give it back pero binalot ko lahat ng damit nya and nilagay ko sa labas ng gate)

Kady_14 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 01, 2012, 11:47:54 am »

Yung yaya reliever ko ganyan. Kapag inutusan kahit super lapit lang. 10 years bago bumalik, Natuto na ako. I text her, right after my text anjan na sa gate, papasok sa bahay. pumepetiks lang pala sa labas or somewhere malapit sa bahay para hindi mautusan and to kill time. Nakakagalit di ba?

Wala lang akong choice kasi umuwi sa probinsya yung yaya ko to get married. Good thing pabalik na si yaya. I can relieve myself from this stress.

xxmiakaxx · « **Reply #10 on:** July 21, 2012, 10:32:51 pm »

naku mahirap yan ganyan attitude para kayong nag hide in sick sa sarili mong hause

BlueAlmond · « **Reply #11 on:** September 11, 2012, 04:56:58 pm »

Ang problem sa maid namin are her days off. Actually, nag0overnight nga siya eh (umuuwi sa kanila). Is it fair to give her one overnight per month, or is it too low? Parang gusto niya kasi mas maraming overnights per month. Laging holy war with her and my mom kapag dinidiscuss ang overnights niya.

She's decent naman, matino. Wala kaming problema sa kanya.

mikelly · « **Reply #12 on:** September 13, 2012, 03:00:33 am »

I am also considering offs with overnights. Yung akin kasi pamilyado (hubby and 2 kids). Maliliit pa mga anak niya, around 3 and 6 years old. So pinapayagan ko naman mag overnight 2x a month, every payday. Iniisip ko din kasi yung balance for her as long as she can finish her work before she left. Ok naman siya mag work sa amin pero di naman siya full time sa daughter ko kasi ako naman ang full-time dun. And ayoko din na masanay yung anak ko sa kanya masyado.

Pero I know that I still give limitations and I know she's aware of it. Pinapakiramdaman ko pa rin siya until now kahit I know that she's aware naman.

happynes · « **Reply #13 on:** September 24, 2012, 01:54:49 am »

This is also my problem sa yaya na nasa amin. Like today, last night lang sya nagsabi na mag ooff sya today (usapan namin even before she started to work for us is to inform me 2-3 days in advance so I can check my schedule also. Also, they were told na hindi pwede mag off ng sabay si yaya at ang helper. Kahit sinabi ko na kanina, sabay pa din sila umalis mag off. When I called them about it, sabi pag usapan na lang daw namin pag balik nila mamya. Pumayag nako na mag off si yaya today kasi babalik naman daw sya by 3pm. So I said kahit 8 pm na. Ayun both of them texted na tomorrow morning na lang sila uuwi. Basta I feel yaya and her new bf ( a text mate), they saw each other yesterday after my son's abacus class in the afternoon. Instead of going home after an hour of playing after class, yaya texted me na malalate lang daw sila ng uwi kasi she bought 2 tickets to 2 rounds of bump car drive for my kid. Limited lang ang pera na pinadala ko sa kanya, I'm careful with it since I noticed hindi sya honest sa pera and also to make sure they go home agad after the class. Good thing my husband called and said dadaanan nalang daw nya sila sa mall since pauwi na din sya kaya by 9pm nakauwi na din sila.

Honestly I want to let yaya go now na---kaso wala pang kapalit e. But I'm actively searching for her replacement as of this afternoon. ALmost 4 months na sya samin, yet I feel parang ang bigat bigat nya kumilos. My son also seems to not like her, he does not want yaya to go with him anywhere. Pero naiisip ko baka kasi he's just being makulit at ayaw mahirap sumunod. I feel I can no longer trust her with my child. Also hindi naman sa I'm being judgmental, but I can not help but think of her personal story (as told by the other helper who is her cousin) of leaving her 2 young kids (5 and 9 yrs old sons) twice, just to be with another man.

maiandra · « **Reply #14 on:** September 25, 2012, 10:49:13 am »

Naku sis, bitawan mo na yan at sakit sa ulo lang abot mo. Lalo na she left her 2 kids, eh ano pa bang motivation nya to work? Just for her luho? She can easily leave her job with you pag tinopak, at ikaw naman malalagay sa alanganin.

ags · « **Reply #15 on:** November 16, 2012, 12:08:24 pm »

Same problem for me. Wala naman complaints about the maid's work. But her contract with me states 1 overnight a month or 1day off every other week. Okay naman for the past months. But lately, every week na ang overnight. At first ang paalam meron daw birthday party. Then the succeeding weeks, may aayusin then last week takot daw siya umuwi ng gabi. So I told her to come home earlier. Ayaw daw niya. Ikaltas na lang daw one day sa sweldo niya.

The thing is, she is currently processing her papers for abroad and at the same time hoping her foreigner boyfriend who will come to visit her next month will marry her and bring her back with him. Either way, she probably believes she doesn't really need to work na so lax na siya mag follow ng contract.

I know it is best to let her go na and I plan to do it ASAP. Kaso I've never let a maid go na walang major reason (theft, abuse, etc) so sorry if medyo off topic but how does one go about the dismissal?

aquacharly · « **Reply #16 on:** December 09, 2012, 02:49:13 pm »

Why do you need a reason to kick out a helper? Just tell her the truth -- her erratic sched and substandard performance is inconvenient to you.
Baket, when they decide to just leave -- do they give the true reason?

jmljoven · « **Reply #17 on:** December 12, 2012, 03:26:20 pm »

Agree! Just tell the truth... Kahit anong reason mo naman at kahit tama ka pa, tayo pa din ang masama sa paningin nila. Oh well, ganun talaga.

kiz_me1109 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 13, 2012, 04:56:23 am »

Naku, maluwag pa pala ako sa yaya ko. hehe
Yung sa amin kasi wala naman kami agreement sa off.
Pero naka note lahat ng day offs niya sa planner ko.
Hindi naman kasi ako mahigpit sa kanya as long as hindi ako busy and naka restday din ako.
Bonding time din kasi namin ng anak ko yun kapag ako nag aalaga sa kanya the whole day.
Anyways, back to the issue:

graveyard shift ako and weekend off. So, minsan pinapa day off ko siya morning of Saturday pag uwi ko sa house from work. Then, balik siya Monday morning para makatulog na ako for my shift that night. So parang 2 days off siya. Malayo din kasi inuuwian niya. Minsan, siya na nagsasabi na hindi siya uwi kasi sayang sa pamasahe. hehe

Minsan, nakakainis lang kasi biglang magpapaalam. Yung tipon, wala namang kaso sakin kasi yung mga alibis niya kala niya sakin t*nga e. hehe Hindi ko naman siya masisisi kasi bata pa.

Tinatandaan ko yang mga ganyan. Kaya last year, nung pasaway pa siya e hindi ako nagbigay ng buong 13th month pay. hehe

Pero ngayon, since ok naman siya the whole year e buo.=)

quinone · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2012, 05:15:27 am »

hay naku...itong house help namin (hindi 'yaya', no kids na inaaalagaan or pets) two weeks ago di pinayagan umalis ng hubby ko, sabi ba naman "hindi naman pwede sa akin yan kapag may personal na lakad ako..." hanggang end of this year na lang daw siya.

abuso. 2 days in a month ang allowed niyang off. naging every sunday na simula nung nagsisimba siya sa new religion niya kay Quibuloy; kingdom of jesus christ ata yun. tapos di na nga namin siya binawasan ng pay kahit na dumami ang day off niya, may sideline pa siya sa lola ko halfday ng monday(100) at friday(100), wala ring bawas sa pay. may sideline pa siya ng sunday sa kapatid ng hubby ko (300). we give her 3K+philheatlh. kahit buong araw siya nanonood ng Quibuloy show at nakikipagkwentuhan sa cell, hinahayaan ko lang. pareho lang kami ng food sa kanya, di kami mahigpit. may extra netbook rin kami sa bahay, so sarili niyang use yun. naka hook rin sa wifi sa house yung android phone niya.

2 lang kami ni hubby sa house (+HH), no kids, no pets. halos wala siyang pupunasan dito kasi we keep everything sa loob ng cabinets because i don't like clutter. di rin kami nagpapa-plansta sa kanya.

napansin ko na yan, since nagstart siya dun sa religion na yun, kapag aalis kami ng house ng hubby ko, magpapaalam din siya lumabas, siguro iniisip niya wala naman siya gagawin. mostly, half a day tapos na duties niya.

sabi ko nga sa hubby ko, mukhang sa pagkakasagot sa kanya feeling ng HH siguro she is still entitled to more day offs. sabi ko rin kung sa tita ko or lola ko nasabi ng HH yung ganun, malamang ang sagot sa kanya nun, "aalis ka pala, sige umalis ka na ngayon!" ang sa akin naman kung she needs a free day for unwinding talaga or a raise in pay...willing naman akong pag-usapan yun pero hindi yung parang utang na loob pa namin sa kanya. narinig pa ni hubby sabi ni HH sa cellphone sa kausap niya, "wala akong dayoff kasi nagsisimba ako kapag sunday" hello? kasalanan ba namin ni hubby yun?

kinausap niya si hubby the other day ayaw naman daw niya umalis na masama loob namin, mas gusto raw niya i-explore yung stay out na pagha.house help. (hindi sa house namin) sabi ng hubby ko siguro kasi nakakilala ng friends sa new religion kaya gusto maglalabas, maglakwacha. ayoko na nga lang maiinis baka maging wrinkles lang, pero i can't help it.

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