How do we protect our assets/properties from future illegitimate children?

[cindylulu]

parang nakakarelate ako dito sa thread na to, pero not as a wife, but as a daughter.
my mother died 10 years ago, I have 2 sisters pa, so bale 3 kami magkakapatid. my father got married again after 3 years and now have a son. my small property ang parents ko. so diba conjugal property yun mga mama at papa ko.
eh sabi ni papa ko, wala daw kaming 3 magkakapatid sa property na yun kasi sa kanya daw yun at sya nagpundar dun.

your father's wrong sis. whatever property your parents invested prior to your mother's death, AND whatever properties your father and your stepmother invest in, you and your siblings are entitled to your share. it's in the family code. ipaglaban nyo karapatan nyong magkakapatid. swerte naman ng half-brother nyo pag sa kanya lahat pupunta. 50% of the total share goes to the children (the other 50% goes to your father). then you and your siblings, including the half-brother, have 1/4 share each out of the 50%.

[bankerII]

the law is FAIR.
I think we are seeing too much of telenovelas
and our impression of a "second wife" is EVIL.

aren't we being selfish?

just like my cousin, ayaw na niya bigyan yung mother niya
kasi "sayang" daw, ginagastos lang sa "spoiled" apo.

...just my POV.
peace....
 

[ldrwifey]

the law is clear... if one of the spouse dies paghahatian ng heirs ang properties n naiwan niya.... im not a lawyer pero yan natutunan ko dati s estate tax. kahit anong gigil ng legal family s illegitimate child(ren) the law says may karapatan sila sa estate n naiwan.

aren't we being selfish?

i think human nature n yan... wala tayong pakialam sa iba, we will do everything to protect our own

im also a legal wife, no children yet, pero ngayon p lang nagiisip ko na on how to protect my future kids in case maiwan ko sila ng medyo maaga... i trust my husband but then again hindi ko hawak ang panahon, pano kung magkaron siya ng "sideline" pano ko pangangalagaan ang interest ng mga anak ko, these ang just a few things n hindi nagpapatulog sakin.

now i watched a documentary in investigation discovery, im not sure if pwede sya sa pinas but the patriach put all the money in a trust and nag stipulate siya that no illegitimate heirs of his or his heirs will ever benefit from the trust. nagkaron p ng demandahan kasi diba all children whether legitimate or not should inherit... but in the end the stipulation on the trust withstand. ang nakuhang share ng illegitimate ay kung ano lang ang hindi nalagay s trust which is just a fraction of the total estate value.

now i want to make things clear, hindi ako against sa mga batang ipinanganak out of wedlock, wala silang kasalanan, hindi sila kasama sa kung ano pa man ang ginawa ng parents nila but im talking as a woman n balang araw magkakaron ng mga anak and as i said i will do everything to protect their interest.

as im reading my post parang masyado yatang conflicting ang sinulat ko. 

[snowberry]

the law is FAIR.
I think we are seeing too much of telenovelas
and our impression of a "second wife" is EVIL.

aren't we being selfish?
...just my POV.
peace....
 

Let us be realistic, kung ako ang naghirap mas gusto kong makinabang ang kadugo ko , meaning mga anak ko kesa ibang tao. Evil or not , it's  most  probable that the 2nd wife will  not be related to me , so hindi iya dapat makinabang. Regarding sa anak ko , I can advise them to have a prenup kung may minana sila .  Sorry sa mga guys,pero maraming lalaki ngayon ang wise na... magaasawa ng may pera na ,para wala ng hirap. I've seen a lot of this kind .

[bankerII]

ako nga, ayaw ko rin paka-inin yung asawa ko
kasi hinde ko naman yan ka-dugo!
( why should I feed you when you are not even my relative?)

[ldrwifey]

^ you made my day!!! 

i guess the best way to protect our assets from future illegitimate kids is make sure walang magiging dahilan ang mga husband n maghanap ng iba

[cindylulu]

^if we die early, one way to control the disposition of our assets/properties sis is to draw up a last will and testament, either holographic or notarial in nature. once probated, it will stand up in any court as it is the document that will determine the disposition of the inheritance. meaning, this is recognized as the supreme law in succession. 

there's a case in our civil procedure that stands out in my memory wherein the testator (the one who drew up the will) intentionally excluded some of his family members from inheriting his real and personal properties, tinanggalan ng mana kumbaga. 

[rianne_mallows]

^pwede naman na ganun diba? tapos naka sign yung mag-asawa.. so whoever dies first, secure ang kids..  hindi naman lalaki lang ang pwede mag-asawa ulit eh

this way, hindi pangit ang dating... kasi as parents, both of you should understand the importance of the agreement...

[PrincessC]

^if we die early, one way to control the disposition of our assets/properties sis is to draw up a last will and testament, either holographic or notarial in nature. once probated, it will stand up in any court as it is the document that will determine the disposition of the inheritance. meaning, this is recognized as the supreme law in succession. 

there's a case in our civil procedure that stands out in my memory wherein the testator (the one who drew up the will) intentionally excluded some of his family members from inheriting his real and personal properties, tinanggalan ng mana kumbaga. 

will that hold? e pano kung magkaroon ng will yung tatay na yung mga anak lang nya sa 2nd wife ang may mana? wala nang habol ang mga anak sa first wife?

[swit_squiggle]

haha. nice thread. temang no other woman. illegitimate children have legal rights for the properties of the parents, though not same portion as the ligitimate child. Crazy idea, if you dont want to share anything, then make up stories that will disinherit them. hehe

[violet_dmd_75]

the law is FAIR.
I think we are seeing too much of telenovelas
and our impression of a "second wife" is EVIL.

aren't we being selfish?

just like my cousin, ayaw na niya bigyan yung mother niya
kasi "sayang" daw, ginagastos lang sa "spoiled" apo.

...just my POV.
peace....


 

dahil ayaw niyang may ibang makinabang pati nanay niya tiniis niya...

the law is clear... if one of the spouse dies paghahatian ng heirs ang properties n naiwan niya.... im not a lawyer pero yan natutunan ko dati s estate tax. kahit anong gigil ng legal family s illegitimate child(ren) the law says may karapatan sila sa estate n naiwan.
i think human nature n yan... wala tayong pakialam sa iba, we will do everything to protect our own

i think that's why illegitimate children have legal rights.
karamihan talaga ayaw mag-share, blame human nature . if walang batas for them eh for sure di sila bibigyan kahit singkong duling ng legal family pwera na lang kung ang mapangasawa ng tatay niya eh katulad ng nanay ko
i have an illegitimate sister pero in this case nabuntis ng dad ko mom ng half sis ko nung binata pa dad ko at di sila nagsama pero my half sister lived with my dad's family. when my dad passed on, nanay gave my half sister her share of the insurance money my nanay got... but since mas mayaman ang half sis ko sa amin eh she didn't care na sa 2 lots at 2 sasakyan ng parents ko. i guess it's also different kasi we grew up na parang real sisters talaga walang half half

ako nga, ayaw ko rin paka-inin yung asawa ko
kasi hinde ko naman yan ka-dugo!
( why should I feed you when you are not even my relative?)

 
hehe natawa ako dito

[babymom20]

can relate. but sa amin naman hindi properties pa ang pinaghatian.o baka kasi wala namang properties na hahatiin.

police officer dad ko. may isang illegitimate child, 8 or 9 yrs old sya nung namatay dad ko. daming insurances at death benefits pala na makukuha namin. and lahat ng yun hati-hati lang sa aming apat, mom and my two sisters. each insurance may individual checks na para sa amin. wala kahit isa para sa illegitimate. kasi wala naman ang pangalan nya sa list of beneficiaries.

nung yung pension claims naman ang nilalakad ng mom ko, daming rumors na pwedeng maghabol nga raw yung illegitimate kasi sabi ng iba nga dapat may share syang makukuha esp minor age sya while kaming legit e 21yo na yung bunso namin nun. but then i dont know kung tinangka nilang maghabol o nalaman din nilang wala silang habol kasi sa PNP records ng dad ko, wala man lang naligaw na pangalan nya esp doon sa list of legal beneficiaries. so in short, wala syang nakuha kahit piso. hindi ko lang alam ngayon kung inaabutan rin sila ng mom ko paminsan-minsan. kasi last time we talked naoopen nya na ano raw kaya kung bibigyan na lang nya ng pera rin pag dumadating ang pension nya, which i disapproved. ayaw ko. matuto rin silang magbanat ng buto. nung buhay pa dad ko, walang pera binibigay samin, puro lang mom ko. sila wala namang mga hanapbuhay so syempre nakinabang na sila nun. ngayon, sa mom ko naman.

[cindylulu]

will that hold? e pano kung magkaroon ng will yung tatay na yung mga anak lang nya sa 2nd wife ang may mana? wala nang habol ang mga anak sa first wife?

once probated, the court will uphold it and all intestate proceedings will be suspended. pwedeng tanggalan ng mana ni tatay si anak sa first wifey.

[ldrwifey]

pag sa mga insurance claims talagang ganyan unless nakalagay ang name sa beneficiaries wala kang habol. kasi nagdecide na yung namatay kung kanino lang mapupunta ang perang makukuha dun.

once probated, the court will uphold it and all intestate proceedings will be suspended. pwedeng tanggalan ng mana ni tatay si anak sa first wifey.

pero diba ang pwede niya lang galawin is yung share niya din sa properties nila n 1st wife, kasi i know na may batas din n nagpprotect sa interest ng unang asawa.
example: wife dies, property is conjugal.. natural ang compulsary heirs ng wife is husband and kids, so automatic may mana n agad ang mga bata.

please correct me if im wrong

[cindylulu]

i have an illegitimate sister pero in this case nabuntis ng dad ko mom ng half sis ko nung binata pa dad ko at di sila nagsama pero my half sister lived with my dad's family. when my dad passed on, nanay gave my half sister her share of the insurance money my nanay got... but since mas mayaman ang half sis ko sa amin eh she didn't care na sa 2 lots at 2 sasakyan ng parents ko. i guess it's also different kasi we grew up na parang real sisters talaga walang half half
 

your half sister is not illegitimate sis. she's a natural child whose parents at the time of birth have no contract of marriage with anyone, in short, the parents are both legally single when the child was born. the natural child's inheritance share is equal to that of the legitimate children.

[violet_dmd_75]

Sis sa pension yata eh yung illegitimate minor may makukuha na di naman mababawas sa pension ng legal wife. Pero yung illegitimate family ang mag-aayos ng papeles nun. Kailangan na in-acknowledge ng dad mo yung kids niya sa ibang babae para makakuha sila. Ganun kasi nangyari sa dad ng mister ko. May 2 illegitimate kids siya na minor pareho when he died. Naapektuhan ang pension ng mom in law ko in the sense na di lang niya agad nakuha pension niya kasi naghabol yung illegitimate fam. Pero di din yata nakakuha kasi kulang papeles nila, I guess di napirmahan ng father in law ko yung birth certificate nung mga bata. After, I think a year tsaka lang lumabas pension ng mom in law ko, 70k na, kasi naipon.

[babymom20]

pag sa mga insurance claims talagang ganyan unless nakalagay ang name sa beneficiaries wala kang habol. kasi nagdecide na yung namatay kung kanino lang mapupunta ang perang makukuha dun.

sa properties walang hatiang nangyari esp all of the properties nakapangalan sa mom ko. the house, car, lands, business, even tricycle at motor, kulang na lang pati bisikleta nakaregister din sa kanya. pero sabi naman ng mom ko, dad ko rin may gusto nun. ayaw daw ng dad ko na may nakapangalan sa kanya.  nung una ang dating sa mom ko e gusto lang ng dad makatakas sa mga bills like payment ng taxes or renewal of registrations. lahat daw nakaname ki mom para sa notice of billing e si mom ang hahabulin hehe. ewan ko na lang in the near future kung magkaroon pa ng issue. o baka takot ding maghabol pa talaga si illegitimate.

[babymom20]

Sis sa pension yata eh yung illegitimate minor may makukuha na di naman mababawas sa pension ng legal wife. Pero yung illegitimate family ang mag-aayos ng papeles nun. Kailangan na in-acknowledge ng dad mo yung kids niya sa ibang babae para makakuha sila. Ganun kasi nangyari sa dad ng mister ko. May 2 illegitimate kids siya na minor pareho when he died. Naapektuhan ang pension ng mom in law ko in the sense na di lang niya agad nakuha pension niya kasi naghabol yung illegitimate fam. Pero di din yata nakakuha kasi kulang papeles nila, I guess di napirmahan ng father in law ko yung birth certificate nung mga bata. After, I think a year tsaka lang lumabas pension ng mom in law ko, 70k na, kasi naipon.

yan nga rin sis yung rumor na naririnig namin nun. acknowledged din sya sa nso birth certificate. pero waiting nga kami na mapending ang process ng papel pero wala naman. more than a year na nagpepension mom ko, smooth naman. o baka wala ring panggastos sila para sa paglakad ng papeles. grabeng hirap maglakad ng benefits haha. ang daming requirements na hinihingi. magastos din. kaya yung iba bago pa man makakuha ng claims e lubog na sa utang o loaned na yung pension nila. 

[swit_squiggle]

kaya nga kailangang maw will para klaro ang hatian. hehe 

[babymom20]

^ sis kung may will na ginawa ang dad ko, malamang lugi ako. ilang beses na akong itinakwil nun pag inaaway ko sya nun hehe