Vaginal Infections (Thread 2)

[kh4t3r1n3]

Sis can I get the name? Pls. Thank you!

freshman ang brandname nun masculine wash hehe

dami pala uses ng ACV. thanks for posting sis.

[Lillyanne]

i may be raining on your parade, sisses, but SUPER INGAT lang when using home remedies, especially to INJECT IN THE VAGINA. it's no joke.

true, ACV (apple cider vinegar) is known to be effective, but not all pu$$ies are the same. some are delicate (like mine) and cannot take even slight deviations in ingredients and amounts used. so i do not douche with home made preparations.

a healthy vagina does not need to be douched, because it SELF-CLEANS.

in my case, only Lactacyd Vaginal Gel (VG) is safe to use internally, in the vaginal canal.

if u find yourself relying on vaginal douches, SOMETHING AINT RIGHT WITH YOUR FLORA. douching upsets the vaginal flora. causes imbalance that creates the opportunity for harmful microbes to take over (vaginitis caused by bacteria or candida yeast or a combination of both).

a woman's vagina is naturally acidic. ever wondered why Lactacyd feminine wash touts a low pH level of 3.5, and the other popular wash, pH Care has a higher pH level of 5.0? these fem washes target different vaginal conditions. you may be hiyang to one and suffer reactions to the other. so if you are ok with one, better not change fem washes on a whim. your vaginal pH may be altered by changes in washes and this leads to imbalance that may encourage an infection.

IF YOU SUFFER FREQUENT VAGINAL INFECTIONS, one of your considerations should be your washing habit. do you wash often even when you're not menstruating, say more than once daily--too clean down there? we all need some bacteria in our vagina, too.

secondly, are you pH-sensitive? one clue for pH sensitivity is having unpleasant reactions to certain fem washes.

third, here's what you may or may not have considered: ARE YOU ALLERGIC TO YOUR PARTNER'S SEMEN? this condition is called seminal plasma hypersensitivity. you can look it up on google. it's not some kaartehan made up by a woman to avoid sex. hehe. IT REALLY HAPPENS. do you often have an infection after having unprotected sex? there you have it. you ARE pH sensitive!

pH of seminal fluid VARIES from male to male. some guys have lower pH (acidic) and some have higher pH (>4.0, 4.5 towards neutral). even the same person's seminal pH can change according to what he ate last night! but for our purpose, let's assume his seminal pH remains within a particular range. just like your sensitivity to fem washes, you are likely to suffer the same reactions to semen that your vagina cannot tolerate. hence you are prone to vaginal infections.

if you have abnormal discharge or odor a day or two after sex, chances are something's going on inside your vagina, it's worth observing. if it persists, a checkup is recommended.

what can u do? HAVE HIM USE A CONDOM PRIOR TO EJACULATION. not all guys will be happy to use one, so make tawad. have him put on a condom when he is ready to cum.

[ms.katy]

sis Lillyanne tnx for the info. it will help a lot to those who have infection.. it is better to seek doctor rather than home remedies

[Lillyanne]

thank you ms.katy. ;-)

*** IF YOU FEEL SOMETHING ISN'T NORMAL, CHANCES ARE SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT ***

people will avoid going to the doctor if they can help it. i'm isa't kalahating duwag din when it comes to doctors, but better overcome the fear than suffer the consequences of self-medication.

i am at the premenopausal stage, sexually active. however, hormonal depletion has resulted in two infections which prompted visits to the obgyn this year alone (3 if you count the annual smear). the first non-routine visit was in july when i developed a yeast infection due to antibiotics taken for a uti. the second one just this week, due to an infection also.

two incidence of infection, and yet the two aren't the same type of infection. so just to let the ladies know that it is important to see the doctor in every case u have, because you won't know what you are dealing with until you are diagnosed.

without proper diagnosis, there's no certainty that the medication you are using will work. you may think u have a bacterial infection when it's yeast, or vice versa. and let me tell u that a mixed infection will show symptoms that do not fall in either category. so why wrack your brain worrying and trying home remedies when a single visit to the obgyn will give you the answer, thus saving you time, money and your physical and mental health? :-)

common vaginal infections are easy to treat, and painless (just cross your fingers you are not drug-sensitive). a course of antibiotics or anti-fungals (bacteria, fungus respectively) usually for a duration of 7 days will take care of your issue.

once you start regular sexual activity, the obgyn becomes part of your life. barring any other medical condition, it's the obgyn that women are first likely to establish a doctor-patient relationship with. you can't avoid the obgyn. even if you do not have sexual activity (by circumstance or by choice), you should nevertheless see an obgyn for routine exams.

virginity or abstinence does NOT spare the ladies from infection. sex isn't the only cause of vaginal infections, though it can make symptoms worse. when something upsets your vaginal flora, say from antibiotics taken to treat another condition, you may develop a yeast infection.

advice if you take antibiotics for UTI...bladder infections are rapidly becoming drug resistant. if you do not get well from a course of antibiotics, your doc may prescribe a second course with a stronger antibiotic. bombarding your system with antibiotics is like throwing the baby out with the dirty bathwater, meaning the good and bad bacteria are wiped out, which leaves your vagina open to a takeover by yeast. this isnt saying you must not follow doctors' orders, but taking probiotics while u are on antibiotics may help in preventing yeast. talk to your obgyn about taking probiotics. do not self-treat okay.

[Lillyanne]

*** TRUTH IS HOME REMEDIES ARE A HIT OR MISS ***

the web is full of information about alternative therapies for women's reproductive issues. very tempting to try! my obgyn uses alternative treatments, BUT AS AN ADJUNCT TO CONVENTIONAL DRUG TREATMENT.

nobody can stop u from trying out remedies ranging from what seems to be safe to the far out. but please know that 2 to 3 days of self treatment is ENOUGH time for your condition to improve. if your condition does not improve on the 3rd day, get your vagina to the obgyn's clinic, pronto.

to those suggesting (more of copying directly from web content): be kind to your fellow girltalkers by adding a disclaimer to your post. there are those who might take your post without batting an eyelash! i'm sorry for playing backseat moderator here, but i was moderator and admin for girltalk from 2002-2010 and many of you may not know me anymore :-)

so please avoid suggesting alternative remedies UNLESS YOU HAVE TRIED IT AND IT WORKED FOR YOU. still, it is still best to lean on the side of caution--that is, encourage others to seek medical attention FIRST.

what you can do here to help others is tell your own experience of a vaginal infection and what was done to cure it, or unexpected issues that arose during treatment, which may help others going through a similar condition.

for us non-MD's, experience, not hearsay, is the best help we can offer.

only those who have gone the way of western medicine that did not work out well for them should consider alternative solutions. there are alternative practitioners who you can approach for your condition if western medicine was not able to help. you can then relate your story of how alternative treatment worked for you and perhaps recommend a qualified therapist.

thanks for your consideration, girls. trying to help because let's face it--home remedies especially without medical supervision remain for most part in ambiguous territory. let's be safe than sorry.

[Lillyanne]

*** INFORM YOUR DOCTOR AS BEST YOU CAN ABOUT SYMPTOMS YOU ARE EXPERIENCING ***

if you think you have an infection, be extra observant. odor? color of discharge? is it thin and watery, or thick and lumpy? sparse or profuse? any discomfort or pain? when symptoms first appeared? during or after sex? no sex? how many days after last intercourse did symptoms appear? these things matter a lot. ALL YOUR SYMPTOMS WHEN TAKEN TOGETHER TELL A MEDICAL STORY. so spill and don't be stingy with information. there can't be too much info when it comes to your body!

you may miss divulging special issues you have, like an allergy to certain meds or concurrent medical condition that your ob should know about. do not think doctors know everything and you can take their word for it. they do not know UNTIL u tell them. exams and labs is half the story. you provide the rest.

Doctors...they are human like us. Some are more sympathetic, caring and attentive than others. some doctors are more experienced than others. some don't care less because ultimately, they only care for the fee that they will charge you. whatever shortcomings you feel that your doctor is exhibiting, it's not entirely their fault, but as a patient, you should know when to seek a second opinion or look for another doctor.

vaginal infections are very common. but what if you aren't a common patient? for example, you have another medical condition for which you are being treated, and you need special care in the prescribing of medicines. yes, drug interactions may be more harmful than your infection to begin with!

we know the limitation of conventional western medicine--if you have a lot of illnesses, the more pills you are likely to take. the bad thing: your body becomes a chemical repository of different, sometimes incompatible drugs. your body responds by exhibiting various side effects. that's not nice at all.

can you help it? sometimes, yes you can. the above serves as enough warning to those of us who like to self-medicate or try treatments that your doctor knows nothing about.

doctors will keep prescribing meds until something works. rarely, but it happens that a doctor tells you he or she cannot do anything more for you. that means they don't know why treatments aren't working. accidents happen, like a drug prescribed to you interacted with another drug u are taking, and u missed informing your doctors...nobody suffers from harmful consequences more than you!

so, very important if you have other known medical conditions for which you are getting treatment or issues with certain prescription drugs--TELL YOUR DOCTORS WHEN YOU CONSULT.

if you are in doubt for any reason, you should seek a second opinion from another doctor.

if you experience side effects that really bother you and your doc insists you follow the prescription nonetheless, you cannot be blamed for replacing that doctor. well, it's your body talking to you and you better listen to it rather than PAY YOUR UNCARING UNSYMPATHETIC DOCTOR THEIR FEES FOR A TREATMENT THAT MAY COST YOU MORE MONEY IF SOMETHING ISN'T RIGHT WITH THEIR SCRIPT!

docs are human like us, true, and they can make errors in judgment. do not ignore red flags. if your doctor doesn't feel right to you, by all means look for another.

[Lillyanne]

since august ang dami ko na napasok na suppository like Canesten for 3 days then after Neo penotran for 7 days then Gynomax for 3 days  tapos pinaulit uli un Canesten kya lalong sumakit at humapdi un vajajay ko..hindi ko na alam ang gagawin ko huhuhu please need help advices form all of you

this is just my opinion ha, i'm only trying to help u sort out your issue.

 if you still have abnormal discharge, did your OB consider a discharge culture to identify the strain of germs that's causing your condition?

if you have no discharge but the inflammation and burning persists, you may be reacting to the prolonged use of vaginal medications already. what i am saying is....it may be an ALLERGIC REACTION to any one or more medications rather than symptoms of an infection.

also consider that you may be dealing with a more serious issue. this is because you've been on treatment for a good while already (suffering pain and discomfort for MONTHS is no joke), without feeling better. for this the OB may need to do further tests.

not the least, there is a possibility that your pain is of an emotional source. meaning, psychosomatic pain from excessive worrying. now try to calm yourself. it could be mind over body, since you anticipate the condition recurring after your period.

meanwhile, have you sought a second opinion? i suggest you consult another OB and describe everything your present doctor -- and you -- have done. maybe there is something that your present OB is not seeing. in any case, talking to another doctor may give you another angle of view. perhaps you're losing trust in your present OB because your condition is not improving. but just the same, stay calm, relax yourself. by all means go to another doctor if u feel it will help you.

if you can talk to your present OB about getting off medications for a while so you can relax mentally. talk to your doc about taking PROBIOTICS. also consider changes in your hygiene products, like feminine wash or soap. maybe you also need to change your toilet paper and pads. you never know until you tell your doctor, because you may be doing something wrong. i sense you have become too distraught and this is contributing to the pain that you are feeling.

of course, this is often overlooked: if you notice that u develop symptoms after having sex (up to a week after last intercourse) then your partner may need to be treated as well. TELL THIS TO YOUR DOCTOR. you two may be passing the infection back and forth. thus, you do not get well.

and more important!!!! ABSTAIN FROM VAGINAL SEX WHILE YOU ARE ON TREATMENT.

[zee87]

mga sis, please enlighten me.
ilan ba talaga yung percentage na magkaron ng vaginitis dahil sa sex?
so if yung girl, isa lang ang partner... tapos nagkaron ng vaginitis, is it safe to say na yung partner niya may iba pang partner aside dun sa girl?

[Lei_Glee]

^zee,
Sis vaginosis is not std. Ang main reason why we get it after having sexual contact is our vagina has an acidic ph, sperm meanwhile has an alkaline ph so pag nagcontact at nagejaculate sa loob the vaginal ph will become basic at mabubuhay lahat ng bacteria, fungus, candida etc. Hope that helps!

[zee87]

thanks sis... i was reading nga several articles about it and di naman lahat nag sasabi na once you have it, it's either you or your partner is having multiple partner. So sad lang kasi that the OB i consulted was implying that my partner may be having multiple partners kaya nagkaron ako ng infection. di ko naman maaway si jowa kasi parang feeling ko naman it's not enough evidence para lang i-accuse ko siya of infelity. The doctor even prescribed a medicine for both of us which my partner is willingly taking too.

[Lei_Glee]

^just take your medicines religiously sis kayo both. If you are not trying to conceive and you do not want recurring vaginosis you can use condoms. Stay healthy!

[zee87]

sis, why do we need to use condoms? curious lang po... the jowa im referring to is my partner for 7 years already and we're living in. i mean, the use of the condoms ba is while we're on medicines or we have to do it na for life? Never kasi kame gumamit nun.

[simplepink]

hi! ask ko lang sana kung kasama sa symptoms ng vaginal infection yung itchiness sa inner thigh?

thanks!

[Lei_Glee]

Simplepink,
Sis from what i remember hindi itchy ang upper thigh ko but yung mismo near the vahina na talaga itchy.

Zee,
Sis you can do whatever. Condoms stops sperms from entering so hindi machange ang vaginal ph so no infection.

[agape]

What kind of infection/condition/disease have a symptom that can affect/delay/change your regular menstruation?

[IronLady]

mga sis san nakukuha ang bv? parang ganto yung akin. magpapacheck pa lang ako. watery sya na mejo yellow-green. more of yellow. hay.. san nakukuha to? napansin ko kasi nagstart mag-itch yung v ko nung nagpalit ako ng fem wash o nung nagpawax ako e. hayy.

[zee87]

mga sis.. my v is super itchy! walang foul odor as this has been treated already. I tried washing it with water with a spoon of vinegar. Also tried water with baking soda. Naglelessen lang [textspeak!] itch pero  di nawawala. after few hours, talagang sobrang itchy na.

[renzy]

pag may mga BV at Vaginal infections ba ay di ka puedeng mabigyan ng anti cervical vaccine?

[IronLady]

mga sis, niresetahan ako ng cream at gynomax. wala pa nakita sakin kasi di ako nakapagpapsmear, sabi nya pagtapos na lang daw ng period ko, dunno kung papagalingin nya ba muna bago itest o di pwede ipapsmear when youre ovulating at madami din discharge? anyways 5 lang instead of 7 supp binili ko. ang mahal kasi e. 2nd day ko pa lang thou di na madami discharge, mejo itchy pa din yung v ko.. san ba inaaply yung cream? sa vulva mismo o dun lang sa itchy part?

[ms.katy]

sad to say mga sis, i have an infection. my ob prescribed me suppositories and oral meds. haay emotional draining talaga. . alert naman si hubby sa kalagayan ko