May nag attempt na ba mang pirate sa househelp nyo?

[artegirl]

We have a cleaning lady that cleans our house every Sunday.  In the more than 6 yrs, that she's been with us, 2x lang yung hindi pumasok - first time she's so sick talaga, the 2nd time (2 Sundays ago) uwi daw ng province.  Yung pag uwi ng province, hindi sya nagpaalam.  I just learned that from my mom.  I assumed there's a family emergency or something.  Anyway, I later on learned (from my mom again) that the real reason she didn't report to work was somebody else was trying to hire her, and the Sun that she was absent, pumasok sya sa iba.  My signing bonus pa ata na offer.  Anyway, I think she's feeling so guilty that she admitted everything sa mom ko.  Pero sa 'kin she didn't say anything. 

What will you do if you were in my place?  I honestly do not want to lose this househelp.  Trusted ko talaga 'to.  She has her moods pero ok lang since about 3 hrs lang naman kami magkita - we go out for lunch kasi pag sunday, so iwan na lang namin sya sa house.  once she's done, she locks the house and goes.  What can I do to pirate-proof her?   

[cashew]

ARTEGIRL, we exactly have the same type of set up regarding our cleaning lady.  Mine comes to our house every Saturday.  She washes our clothes, cleans the house, bathrooms, etc.  She has been with us for 4 years already.  She is very trustworthy.  When we leave the house, we leave her behind and once she is done with work she just locks the door.  She started just working for us and when my mother- in-law knew how efficient she is and how trustworthy, she was also hired albeit on a different schedule (every Wednesday).  When the friend of my MIL looked for a cleaning lady, she was also hired.  (she works with them every Thursday and Friday).

The point is we really cannot pirate-proof our househelp.  They will always look for additional sources of income unless you will  ask her to work for you everyday which means that you will have to pay her daily based on how much you pay her every Sunday. That will surely be very costly  on your part.  Or, you can also ask her to be a stay-in maid, that is if she wants , and agree on a monthly salary.
I have done that before but my cleaning lady declined.  She wants to stay out.  I think the most that we can do is come up with a regular  increase in the pay so she will stay longer.

So, what I do now is just  "enjoy the moment".  Cherish every moment that she is still working for us because it is really very hard nowadays to find a cleaner who are as trustworthy as ours.

[aquacharly]

My househelp are all stay-in.  If I could get trustworthy help, I would rather do what you 2 do... less carrying cost, more privacy.

My no.1 policy is to pay higher than average, so I can attract experienced and well -- less quirky helpers.  But yes,  some people have tried to pirate them.  The helpers tell me themselves.. how the jaws of the pirater drop when they learn how much my helpers earn from me. 

You think I am piracy-proof?   

I will share with you what happened to GMA, this is a true story. 
She would entertain in her house at La Vista before.. when she was not yet a Senator/VP.  So she had her helpers serving her guests.  Well, the day came, 1 of her servers/helpers was seated at her table as a guest -- wife na nang 1 diplomat.  O ano say mo?! hahahaha  She had to put on a smile na talking to her, hahaha.. hindi na puede tarayan, Madame!
(GMA used to make this cuento to her Economics students at Assumption .. and my mom was 1 of her students. )

So there, I am not piracy-proof.  I have lost 1 helper to an old fogey Japanese man who used to help us with sourcing of heavy equipment we import from Japan. 
So there, my helper moved at a  lower salary.  She considered the lower pay as a reasonable entry fee that may lead to her getting out of her current job description.. that is what she told the midwife yaya.  (no comment ako)

The only people who are piracy-proof -- mga artista.  Even for no wages, basta pakainin sila and bihisan and isama sama -- okay with the helpers or "alalays".   Later on pag lumaki na ang ulo, tawag nila sa sarili nila Personal Assistants.  hahahaha

[akthung]

well, bihira talaga makakakita ng magtatagal na katulong. usually kung sino ang nag employ at nagbabayad sa kanila, say the mom of the family, nasa mom ang loyalty nila. some may be courteous and respectful to the mother and the husband alone, pero pag dating sa anak, etc, bastos na. common hirit eh - sila nagbabayad sa akin hindi ikaw.

the best that you could do, is be the best "amo" that you could be and give a good salary package. and when word goes out, malelessen yung hirap mo sa pag hanap kasi may reputation ka na maganda.

if you're not the "nagpapasweldo" well talk about it with the one nagpapasweldo to avoid them manipulating you.

you should also try to find out kung bakit naisip niyang mamasukan sa iba. kung reasonable naman and valid bakit hindi? kung maibibigay mo naman di ba. pero kung hindi, then you just will have to tow the line and let go.

yung iba naman, nagpaaral na mga anak nila...then naging maganda ang kinabukasan/trabaho ng mga anak nila. nagkakaroon ng hiya at utang na loob.

pero kung maganda naman  talaga ang samahan, minsan, maghahanap pa sila ng kapalit nila bago sila umalis.

[Vera]

Hindi pa naman nangyari sa amin. We also never attempted to pirate someone else's helper out of respect.

aquacharly's kwento about GMA's helper reminds me of our neighbor in Iloilo. She never graduated and worked as a yaya in Manila and in Hong Kong (nakwento nya sa akin ang lahat). Fast forward, she met an American widower who's a millionaire. He petitioned her in the US and she became a US citizen. Since the guy's in his late 60s (she's in her early 40s), they chose to retire in the Philippines. They now live in a huge house in Iloilo with 6 helpers and they travel a lot ;-)

[super bratinella]

My daughter first yaya, si Manang lagi siyang gustong kunin sa amin ng kapit bahay, at ang bribe is mas kaunting gawain at mas mataas na suweldo, since family member na ang turing namin sa kanya so super close siya sa amin, and because of that ang dami na rin niyang tinanggihan na offer, however she still went back to her province and still calling us.

[kidsrepublik]

yes may na-pirate na samen.

she was with us 1.5 yrs, cook and bantay sa shop. akala namen magaaral na siya and work part time sa dati nyang amo na malapit sa house ng parents nya. yung pala nagwork sa katabing RTW shop namen, pro ibang branch. kamusta naman nagtext pa na marami daw siya pangarap and plans, sabay dun den pala siya babagsak. 

[rhed]

wow sis aquacharly how old is your mom na naging prof pa niya si GMA (sorry OT)

i lost my helper sa neighbor namin as in close friend pa ng family ko yung neighbor tinago pa nila yung helper ko and then pinadala nila sa farm nila and then wala na ako balita lol

ang nagkwento sa amin yung driver nila sa driver namin medyo sad kasi hinanap talaga namin yung helper kasi walang paalam naiwan pa nga yung ibang damit,ang reason daw mahikpit ako ayoko daw magkaron siya ng friends kasi big NO-NO sakin yung lumalabas ang maids and nakikipagkwentuhan sa labas

[twelvth_goddess]

sus! oo, neighbor pa namin. pero nagsumbong yung maid namin and my mom talked to our neighbor.

[super bratinella]

Nakakainis lang talaga ang kasambahay ng ninang namin sa kasal, who lived just in front of our house, nung time na nag hahanap kami ng yaya my ninang's kasambahay told us na wala siyang ma- irefer sa amin, then nung nakahanap na kami ng yaya who is our Manang, kinausap pa niya si Manang na may alam daw siya na pwede niyang lipatan mas malaki ang pay at mag aalaga lang ng bata.

Buti na lang hindi niya na uto si Manang at super loyal siya sa amin.

[aquacharly]

wow sis aquacharly how old is your mom na naging prof pa niya si GMA (sorry OT)

mid-50's.  She also had the late Mrs. Lichauco as 1 of her law profs.
Pero eto ha... nang makapag teach na si GMA sa Ateneo -- she hardly ever mentioned she started her teaching career at AC San Lo.  So when lal mere mentioned once that GMA was a blah prof... our ears perked up.  hehe

[artegirl]

nakaka-loka talaga helper.  I think reasonable naman pay nya sa 'kin.  and maluwag din ako if she needs an advance.  hindi naman ako dakdakera sa helper.   naisip ko nga, siguro if she's not working for my mom (6 days sya sa mom, 1 day sa 'kin), e nawala na yun. 

[crystalclear]

Yaya ng panganay ko who were w/ us for almost 2 years, na pirate naman ng another parent sa school ng anak ko. Kasi pinagbabantay ko dun everyday (2 hours lang naman), nagka chika chika, nirefer ng kapwa yaya sa amo. nagpaalam sa akin na makikipagkita lang sa pinsan for 3 days, then di na bumalik. Nabalita ko na alng na lumipat na sa iba. That made me very sad, kasi di na rin siya iba sa amin e, tsaka mahal na namin siya. Iniisip ko na lang, siguro nga maganda talaga ang offer (at kailangang kailangan nya kasi siya lang naman breadwinner ng family nya).

[aquacharly]

Here in our village, a helper cannot transfer to another household without the consent of her last employer -- all in the same village.  Nahuhuli ng guards yan (kasi all helpers get IDs, and are logged in and out)
Same goes for drivers.

Mabuti na lang this Lucy Torres Gomez does not need more helpers.. baka lahat ng helpers sa village andoon na sa kanya.  hehe
But to be fair  -- she is as good as she is beautiful.
God's hand, her congressional district got the congressman they deserve -- si Lucy yon, hindi si Richard.  hehe   

[Kady_14]

Meron, yung maid ko dati, if tamad ako mg-grocery binibigyan ko na lang sya ng money then pinapapunta ko sya sa palengke. Yung suki nya asked her if she wants to transfer, kasi me nghahanap daw ng maid at 3k ang sahod na para bang malaki na yun, tapos tinanung sya how much we pay her. Tigil na lang daw si Ale Tindera kasi mas malaki ang bayad namin. hehe.

Yung maarte na maid namin who has a sister na maid din sa same subd. Nagpaalam so pinayagan namin kasi maarte nga, kesa added stress and then we later found out na lumipat lang sya ng papasukan sa ibang street, so naniguro muna sya bago magpaalam and it really had to be in the same subd kasi andun nga din work ang ate nya. Gusto sana namin kausapin yung new employer pero di rin sya nakatagal kasi ginugutom daw nun new employer. Tatlo lang daw kasi yung members of the household. Dad - who's always out or working, Mom and Teenage Daughter - na naka diet mode. So never never pakialaman ang food nila. Also most of the time di na ngpapaluto si Mom and Daughter and just eat their diet cereals and oats. So ayun tag gutom sya. Eh sa amin makain ang mga tao and kung ano pagkain namin, same with house help. Pwera lang sa food ng kids ko, kasi I buy them pambaon and snacks - eto lang ang di ko shini-share sa maids... Tawa na lang kami. Choosy ka pa ha! Buti nga. (bad) 

Meron pa pala, sa old house, pero di naman namin pi-nirate. She was our neighbor's help then. Nagpaalam sa kapit-bahay namin na uuwi na sa probinsya. Eh close na sila ng maid namin dati. She asked us if pwede ba sya sa amin. My MIL then talked to our neighbor and told them na nasa amin nga. Ok lang naman sa kanila. Naintindihan din naman namin si maid kasi sabi nya she sleeps in the family's extra room. Parang guest room. eh dun din daw natutulog yung pamangking lalaki nun amo nya. Minsan lasing. So takot sya and di mapakali. Mali naman yun.

[mommy_cel]

dito sa condo nakaka sama ng loob.  madaming mga nang p pirate ng yaya mo.  kasi sa clubhouse naglalaro together yung mga kids in the morning.  so may barkadahan na ng mga yaya.  tapos yung mga nang p pirate, tambay din dun.

ang nakakainis, my last yaya for 1year and 2 months, winalanghiya ang trabayo for a month para mapilitan kami paalisin.
-nakipag boyfriend sa water delivery boy 20years younger than her.
-iniiwan yung anak ko sa loob ng bahay hindi naka lock habang nakikipag landian sya sa fire exit
-nangungupit ng lantaran na
-naging mainitin ang ulo at bastos
-binabantaan pala yung anak ko at sinasabihan ng pangit araw araw
-nagpapa pasok bigla ng ibang tao sa bahay

so we had it with her when we found out what she was doing.  at parang tuwang tuwa pa nung pinaalis namin. 2 days after biglang nasa kabilang building na.  at pinagmamayabang sa mga guard ng community na we fired her without just cause at wala daw syang ginawang masama sa amin.  sya pa talaga ang mapag malaki.

now me and my kids cant go out of the house.  i dont want my daughter to see her kasi na traumatize sya.  she remembers na everyday sinasabihan syang pangit.  the condo wont ban my yaya.  pano malakas sa mga guard dahil may naging boyfriend din pala sya dun.  at kelangan ko pa kumuha ng blotter para tuluyang mapalayas sya dito. 

my daughter told me, everytime mapapagalitan ko si yaya nung last month nya, tinatakot pala sya ni yaya pag nagsumbong pa ulit yung daughter ko sakin ng kalokohan ni yaya sinasabi nya "ikaw, pag sinumbong mo ulit ako sa mommy mo at pagalitan ako, lalayas na ko dito at lilipat sa hennesy!"  (kabilang building yun yung name)

[kolinetongue]

normal lang yan. just like sa mga companies. kabi-kabila ang offer.

but one thing i always tell to my kasama sa bahay, na kung hindi na
sila masaya sa amin, they can go home or look for another amo.

basta ganun lang usapan namin.

so far, wala pa naman ako nababalitaan na umalis
sa bahay tapos bigla makikita sa ibang amo.

 

[mommy_cel]

i understand naman na talagang nangyayari ang pirate-in ang yaya mo.  parang sa office lang din.

kaso sana hindi winawalanghiya ang trabaho porket gusto na pala lumipat sa iba.  bat hindi nalang magpaalam ng maayos diba?  kasi trinato naman namin parang family sya.  i told her to be honest with me, kung gusto nya umalis na samin, sabihin nya ng maayos, papayagan ko naman sya.   

bakit kailangan humantong sa sirain ang trust ko sa kanya, kupitan ako ng pera at ilagay sa risk ang mga anak ko tuwing nagpapa pasok sya ng strangers at boyfriend nya sa bahay ko diba?

ang nakakainis din sa mga nangp pirate, porket nakikita nila yung mga anak ko malulusog, maaayos at matatalino, ina attribute nila na magaling ang yaya agad kaya kelangan nila ma pirate ang yaya ko?  hindi ba pwedeng pinaghihirapan naming mag asawa palakihin ng maayos ang mga anak namin?

[anikagail]

yung yaya naman ng cousin ko na promote na from being a yaya, asawa na sya ngayon ng tito ko hehe

[mdy]

Meron, relatives pa. Efficient kasi yung helper ko for 3 years. O-offeran ng mas malaki na sweldo and everything pero she's been very loyal to my family. At mukhang hindi nya kayang iwan yun mga anak ko. She's on vacation right now and I'm praying talaga na she comes back sooner kasi nasstress na ako sa iniwan nya na helper saken.

[gab54]

dami na nanulot ng mga helpers ko. if hindi naman excellent ang helper, i let them go. hanap uli ng iba. i dont want lumaki pa ulo ng helper
pero if excellent ang helper, tatapatan ko! hihigitan ko pa.
4 years ago may yaya ako na at that time, 3k ang sweldo. pinsan niya tinatawagan siya at may 4k daw na sweldo awaiting her. when i found out. i talked to the yaya that ok naman siya for my 1yo son, if she stays tatapatan ko ang 4k. she stayed, after 1 year ginawa kong 4500, after another year ginawa kong 5k. then last year, nung 5500 na siya. umalis dahil nabuntis at nag asawa. hehe. pero at least 4yo na ngayon ang son ko. i got new yaya na 4500 starting

[eekai]

yes.  last month nagpa alam sakin si HH na magpapa color ng hair sa may katapat naming parlor.  i said ok. 

pag balik nya nag sumbong sa akin si yaya sabi nya sabi daw nung isang babaeng tambay dun pwede daw syang tulungan na mag agency 5k daw ang sweldo.

i said, alam mo if you have better opportunities na totoo, i will never say NO. 

pero sabi nya sakin na ayaw daw nya umalis kase kawawa naman baby ko kung walang bantay

[alinkshel]

meron recently. kapitbahay namin. i only have a civil relationship with my neighbors. hindi kami friends, hindi din naman kami magkaaway. as in ok lang... so walang pakialaman.

kinuwento naman sakin ni yaya. dadagdagan daw ng 500 ang sweldo nya. mag-aalaga lang sya ng baby. buti na lang loyal na sakin yung yaya ko. for almost four years, hindi nya pa ako binigo...