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Re: Regarding tithes
« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2009, 04:05:09 AM »
Agree.

You know sis its really ok if you don't believe in tithing, that's why the Lord gave us free will. We can believe what we want.  Actually we can do whatever we want, analyze tithing in whatever way we want , up to the extent that we find a loopholes not to tithe.  But I believe that it is our obligation to tithe.  How can you not give only 10%, you still have 90%, its not even half of your income that is He asking for. P10 out of your P100. A piso out of your P10???The tithe is given to God from our increase and for our increase.  If you feel afraid to give 10% of your income, then at least start somewhere.  When you start to give and realize the wisdom of God's economic plan, it won't be long until you wil be giving a tenth of your income or even more.

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« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2009, 04:39:30 AM »
^ I think sis,     sis  cristeen  is trying to say agree sya na di kailangan ang 10%,  but di naman nya sinabi na  agree with no tithes, althou di ko sya kilala at wala akong connection kay sis cristeen din, infact dito lang sa forum, but siguro lang she agree with I one I post , na yun nga if you want to give yung bukal sa puso mo, kahit magkano basta yung makakayanan mo or yung bukal sa puso mo na walang pag aalinlangan , kc di naman in require sa atin na 10% as I said yung 10 % na yung tithes eh panahon sa law of moses sa bayan ng Israel. thou nung panahon ni Jesus Christ binago na nya yan eh, na kung magkano ang desire mo yung di mabigat sa loob. Pero  di naman sinasabi na di na magbibigay.  Actually wala naman dito ang nagsabi sa mga sisters natin na wag na magbigay, ang flows nang thread is "it is actually need 10% ba to satisfy God ? " eh paano yung mga walang pambili ng pagkain ?  at 2% lang ang pwede maibigay ? so kaya nga yun sa Lucas 21:1 yung babaing bao na 2 cents lang ng naibigay nya na mas pinakadakila sa mata ng Diyos kaysa dun sa nagbigay ng marami sa kaban ng Diyos.


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Re: Regarding tithes
« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2009, 04:43:41 AM »
I do give tithes every payday. Its 10% of my income...

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« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2009, 05:04:28 AM »
Proverbs 3:9 NIV



    9 Honor the LORD with your wealth,
       with the firstfruits of all your crops;


so dapat yung firstfruits ng kinikita natin...right?

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« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2009, 05:06:03 AM »
ako in my point of view , kung siguro ako let say mayaman, siguro magbibigay din ko more than a 10% diba,baka nga kahit 50% pa eh basta pa marami tayong pera..let say halimbawa lahat tayo  mayaman or kung yumaman ang lagi natin maiisip magbibigay tayo ng malaki,diba?  pero let say lahat nga tayo yumaman at lahat tayo ang lalaki ng mga binibigay... do you think pera lang ba ang mahalaga or yung abuloy natin ang mahalaga sa Diyos? aanhin ng Diyos ang ating mga abuloy kung lahat tayo mayaman.... ..e ang gusto  ng Diyos ang ating paglilingkod sa kanya at ang ating puso sa kanya...so siguro mas minabuti ng Diyos na even ang lahat may mayaman at mahirap , para ang mayaman makatulong sa mahirap, at ang mahirap makapagbigay dalangin sa Diyos para sa mayaman na nagbibigay ng tulong ...eh kaya lang karamihan sa mga mayayaman di nagbibigay eh...mas inuuna nila sarili nila diba?   so ang Diyos naaawa sa ating mga dukha..kaya tayo pinagpapala.  ...kaya nga sabi ng Panginoon  Lucas 6:20  " Mapapalad kayong mga dukha; sapagka't inyo ang kaharian ng Diyos ". at syempre tayong mga mahihirap nagbibigay din sa taong mahihirap.
kaya nga siguro di tayoginawa ng Diyos na lahat mayaman kc alam ng Diyos ang kalooban natin na tayo ay tutulong sa kapwa, kung di tayo binigyan ng Diyos ng yaman upang lalong makapagbigay sa mahirap...siguro alam ng Diyos na magiiba tayo..diba alalahanin natin ang Diyos lang ang nakakaalam ng pagkatao natin...nalalaman din nya kapag nagbigay sya ng sobra sa atin at ano ang mangyayari sa atin.."God knows us everything kahit sa hinaharap.  kaya kung nakakapaglingkod tayo kahit tayo'y mahirap ikagalak natin yun, kc dun tayo titiganan ng Diyos yung puso natin.

ang ibig ko lang sabihin ma galak tayo kung ano mayroon sa atin, at kung ano maibibigay natin tayo'y magbigay.. lalo na sa taong mahihirap na walang makain. kc mas kinalulugdan ng Diyos ang mga taong nagugutom eh kaysa charity na di mo alam or sure kung san napupunta ang pera mo. maraming mga taong nagugutom ngayon , yung iba namamatay na sa gutom.
alalahanin natin ang taligahaga ni Jesus yung tungkol kay Lazaro na pulubi at yung mayamang hari na di man lang mabigyan ng pagkain hanggang sa namatay sa gutom at sakit si Lazaro at di binigyan ng hari ng kahit ano"

at sa kabilang buhay tayo'y tatanungin ng Panginoon Mateo 25:42 " Sapagka't ako'y nagutom at hindi ninyo ako pinakain,  ako'y nauhaw ngunit hindi ninyo ako pinainom

kaya magbigay tayo sa abot ng ating makakaya ng mayhandog na  pasasalamat sa Diyos.
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« Reply #45 on: February 03, 2009, 07:46:14 AM »
^right. but were talking about tithes..giving 10 percent of your income to the Lord..

diyan makikita ang pagsunod at pagtitiwala natin sa kanya..ako malayo na sa work ko..iniisip ko makakapagtithes pa ba ako kasi ang laki na ng pamasahe ko? pero awa ng Dios, nagagawa pa rin naman ito...

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« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2009, 08:10:08 AM »
^ I think sis,     sis  cristeen  is trying to say agree sya na di kailangan ang 10%,  but di naman nya sinabi na  agree with no tithes, althou di ko sya kilala at wala akong connection kay sis cristeen din, infact dito lang sa forum, but siguro lang she agree with I one I post , na yun nga if you want to give yung bukal sa puso mo, kahit magkano basta yung makakayanan mo or yung bukal sa puso mo na walang pag aalinlangan , kc di naman in require sa atin na 10% as I said yung 10 % na yung tithes eh panahon sa law of moses sa bayan ng Israel. thou nung panahon ni Jesus Christ binago na nya yan eh, na kung magkano ang desire mo yung di mabigat sa loob. Pero  di naman sinasabi na di na magbibigay.  Actually wala naman dito ang nagsabi sa mga sisters natin na wag na magbigay, ang flows nang thread is "it is actually need 10% ba to satisfy God ? " eh paano yung mga walang pambili ng pagkain ?  at 2% lang ang pwede maibigay ? so kaya nga yun sa Lucas 21:1 yung babaing bao na 2 cents lang ng naibigay nya na mas pinakadakila sa mata ng Diyos kaysa dun sa nagbigay ng marami sa kaban ng Diyos.




It's not a matter of being rich or poor.  It's a matter of trusting God to provide your needs really. Don't trust your feelings.  Trust God. God gives us the best in life, don't you think so?. He gave us His Son, Jesus. And we can't even give 10%. Please don't give God what is leftover. God doesn't need our money actually. Everything we have is His.  Everything is His. We return to Him what was His in the first place.The 10% is divinely dedicated to God. God will take care of the 90%. You will never get short. There's more to comeback to you in obeying God than just money.

"Give and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you." Luke 6:38
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Re: Regarding tithes
« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2009, 08:20:26 AM »
^ I think sis,     sis  cristeen  is trying to say agree sya na di kailangan ang 10%,  but di naman nya sinabi na  agree with no tithes, althou di ko sya kilala at wala akong connection kay sis cristeen din, infact dito lang sa forum, but siguro lang she agree with I one I post , na yun nga if you want to give yung bukal sa puso mo, kahit magkano basta yung makakayanan mo or yung bukal sa puso mo na walang pag aalinlangan , kc di naman in require sa atin na 10% as I said yung 10 % na yung tithes eh panahon sa law of moses sa bayan ng Israel. thou nung panahon ni Jesus Christ binago na nya yan eh, na kung magkano ang desire mo yung di mabigat sa loob. Pero  di naman sinasabi na di na magbibigay.  Actually wala naman dito ang nagsabi sa mga sisters natin na wag na magbigay, ang flows nang thread is "it is actually need 10% ba to satisfy God ? " eh paano yung mga walang pambili ng pagkain ?  at 2% lang ang pwede maibigay ? so kaya nga yun sa Lucas 21:1 yung babaing bao na 2 cents lang ng naibigay nya na mas pinakadakila sa mata ng Diyos kaysa dun sa nagbigay ng marami sa kaban ng Diyos.




if its not 10 percent its not tithing :)
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« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2009, 03:41:41 PM »
It's not a matter of being rich or poor.  It's a matter of trusting God to provide your needs really. Don't trust your feelings.  Trust God. God gives us the best in life, don't you think so?. He gave us His Son, Jesus. And we can't even give 10%. Please don't give God what is leftover. God doesn't need our money actually. Everything we have is His.  Everything is His. We return to Him what was His in the first place.The 10% is divinely dedicated to God. God will take care of the 90%. You will never get short. There's more to comeback to you in obeying God than just money.

"Give and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you." Luke 6:38

I do trust in God and I do worship , actually dapat nga no need to mention this pa pero sa pagkakataon to express how do I love God and Jesus Christ, althou you have a point sis na all ours is his, but what I am trying to say is to answer some sisters here asking some question or confusing na do we really need 10%. is base on what written on the holy bible.. well kung magkano gusto mo doesn't matter kahit 90-50% as long as kaya mo why not. I did not say naman na we don't need to. dahil kahit nga sa panahon ni Jesus Christ eh tinuro nya yan yun nga lang iniba na nya ang law during his time. but if you cannot at kahit 2% lang kung wala talaga di mo naman ninanakawan ang Diyos eh kung yun lang talaga kaya mo eh. at very true din na dapat sa buong sang lingo nga dapat naghahanda kana or nag iipon para sa isang unag araw ng Linggo eh meron kang ma ilagak.

ang nakaka lungkot lang kc.. is kung san mo nilalagak ang tithes or abuloy mo...kc yung ibang pastor lagi nilang lines yun eh na ninanakawan mo ang Diyos kung di ka magbigay ng malaki etc.. na kailanagn mas malaki at mauna sya etc..but I know na isang pastor na nakalagay pa sa forbes ba yun na the billioner minister imagine... eh kung yun ba naman billion billion na nalikom nya sa mga member nya na tithe or abuloy eh dinadala nya sa mga die in hunger sa Africa.   eh kahit 50% siguro maglalaan ako, na alam ko naman na meron akong isang pamilyang mabubuhay pa diba?

or gaya ng isang sister natin dito na si father ganda daw ng sasakyan, paayos ng paayos ng simbahan, pero makikita mo , sa gabi may natutulog na pulubi sa labas ng church kahit nauulanan di man lang mapapasok sa loob ng magandang simbahan.


so to end the discussion.  It doesn't matter kung magkano ang ilalagak or maiibigay mo, as long as kung nagagalak ang puso mo, but kung di talaga kaya ng kabuhayan it doesn't say din naman na ninanakawan mo ang Diyos .  gaya nga ng mga tao sa Africa halimbawa  "are those African dying in hunger need to tithes to? ( hindi ba't dapat nga sila ang abuluyan )  or do they rob God when they cannot give? as it said in the bible everyone obligated to give..Definelty not. because God is Loving God, and He understand everyone, God knows people who cannot give or can give. And He is a God of forgiving.  I hope this one's clear.
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« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2009, 03:49:44 PM »
I tried it dati and for sure, di mahirap ang pera and if you need money man, me nakatago pa pala sa wallet mo or something like that.  Also, I didn't go after the 10% tithe dati basta I give this certain amount lagi pag sahod.

Kakalungkot nga lang kasi out of the country ako and I will try to revive my tithe :(
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« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2009, 03:53:08 PM »
also nga pala I just want to add , na sana we don't expect to the tithes if we give there's big return or in return. kc diba parang ang pangit naman ata na nagbibigay lang tayo kc alam natin may kapalit na biyaya from God althou gawain naman talaga ng Diyos yun, na may kapalit na biyaya, kc malalaman ng Diyos yun eh kung anong desire mo why you give. Or dapat nga di na natin pinag uusapan kung magkano ang ibibigay natin at magkano althou secretly kayo lang dapat ni God, actually nagiisip ka pa nga lang kung magkano ibibigay mo alam na nya at nababasa nya yun sa puso mo.  Yung sinasabi sa bible na magalak ang iyong puso or mag bigay ng kagalakan sa puso, yung mananalangin ka nag may pasasalamat dahil sa iyong ibingay eh meron kang matutulungan....but not the way na waiting na bibigyan tayo ng biyaya ng Diyos. Actually yun nga lang gabayan nya ako sa pang araw araw na gawain yung maging masigla pangangatawan ko at ang aking pamilya ikinagagalak ko na yun eh na sa araw araw nabubuhay parin kami. yun na lang nagagalak na ako sa Diyos.  kahit kabila kabilang mga problema namin o.k lang basta alam kong ginagabayan nya kami masaya na ako dun.
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« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2009, 05:34:12 PM »
you know I truly believe that tithing is for believers.  It's not hard for believers to give what God is asking because we trust Him in every way. with obedience comes blessing even if you say that when we give we shouldn't expect anything in return. it is more blessed to give than to receive isn't...but ...if God gives us overflowing gifts in return, it wouldn't surprise me. it would be totally in keeping with His generous character. Exorbitant. Excessive. Extravagant in grace after grace.

As with regards to those people in Africa who are dying of hunger, I'm sure God knows that they can't give tithes. You have to be earning to give tithes.
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« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2009, 06:20:49 PM »
im trying my best to tithe.

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« Reply #53 on: February 03, 2009, 06:22:04 PM »
you know I truly believe that tithing is for believers.  It's not hard for believers to give what God is asking because we trust Him in every way. with obedience comes blessing even if you say that when we give we shouldn't expect anything in return. it is more blessed to give than to receive isn't...but ...if God gives us overflowing gifts in return, it wouldn't surprise me. it would be totally in keeping with His generous character. Exorbitant. Excessive. Extravagant in grace after grace.

I agree Sis! kapag paulit-ulit mu na nawitness yung goodness ni Lord sa life mu, it gives us so much joy to tithe.  God is so good, He is faithful to His promises and His grace (our undeserved favor) is truly overflowing to those who follow His commands.  ;)
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« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2009, 01:05:53 AM »
Sa amin naman chruch of God naman we call it gugol..every sunday as a bible said unang araw ng sang lingo..ito'y para din sa mga babaing bao na we take care of it at sa mga medical mission at sa mga taong walang matuluyan.    But also I have secrelty mission din na sa labas ng church na make to it na si god lang nakakaalam.
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« Reply #55 on: February 04, 2009, 01:46:32 AM »

ang nakaka lungkot lang kc.. is kung san mo nilalagak ang tithes or abuloy mo...kc yung ibang pastor lagi nilang lines yun eh na ninanakawan mo ang Diyos kung di ka magbigay ng malaki etc.. na kailanagn mas malaki at mauna sya etc..but I know na isang pastor na nakalagay pa sa forbes ba yun na the billioner minister imagine... eh kung yun ba naman billion billion na nalikom nya sa mga member nya na tithe or abuloy eh dinadala nya sa mga die in hunger sa Africa.   eh kahit 50% siguro maglalaan ako, na alam ko naman na meron akong isang pamilyang mabubuhay pa diba?


well, thats your conviction..pag nagbibigay kasi ako sa church, in entrust ko na lang lahat sa Lord, anyway, there is a JUDGE naman na hahatol sa ating lahat sa mga mistakes natin lalo na yung ganung kasalanan.

besides, hindi naman mainly ang purpose mo sa pagbigay ng tithe is to get something from God..basically, dahil gusto mong sundin kung anong ipinag uutos niya.
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« Reply #56 on: February 04, 2009, 01:14:53 PM »
tithing is simply giving back to the Lord what he has blessed us. as long as you are earning then it is due from us. our faith will help us give this tithe and believe na it is for the Lord. no question asked. siguro nga lang we are trying to really justify this dahil hard earned money ito and parang tingin natin na mas gusto natin yung nakikita yung result where the money will go, like kung tayo ang donate, nagbigay sa mga needy. but then again, the Lord is a wise judge, it is your conviction and we will be judged accordingly. For me, i believe that God provides and these sacrifices we do for Him would cover us more than what we expected.  
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« Reply #57 on: February 04, 2009, 09:10:52 PM »
I read somewhere, kung magkano ang daily wage mo sa isang araw could be enough as tithe, then again it all boils down kung how much willing ang isang tao ibigay kay Lord

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« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2009, 12:57:28 AM »
^saan yang nabasa mo.... basta as long as 10% ng income tithe yun

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Re: Regarding tithes
« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2009, 03:14:12 AM »
tithe is the Old English word for one-tenth or a tenth part of a something---so that's tent percent di ba?

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