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Re: Regarding tithes
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2009, 09:01:21 PM »
don't get me wrong... i don't intend to tithe lang only AFTER i've been blessed (e.g. promoted or me salary increase or pag nanalo na ako sa lotto which is malabong mangyari dahil hindi naman ako tumataya).

kahit ngayon nagta-tithe ako, altho hindi pa nga lang 10% of my income kasi hindi ko pa kaya, hindi ko pa alam kung paano, hindi pa sapat ang spiritual maturity ko to really give 10% of my income, etc. but what i'm saying is i plan to give MORE pag na-promote ako or nagka-salary increase... kasi nga sa ngayon we have money problems pa na hinahanapan ko pa ng solution. kaya ko nga hinanap kung ano talaga yung tithing at bakit sinasabi ng marami na mas nabe-bless sila pag nagta-tithe sila.

ang intention ko is to set-up an auto-debit sa account ko for my tithe. yun ang sinasabi kong uumpisahan kong covenant with the Lord, especially kung mapo-promote ako, hoping na masunod ko na yung 10% requirement. baby steps pa lang ako, marami pa akong nire-reconcile sa puso ko kaya hindi ko naman binibigla only to fail in the end.

aminado naman ako na this 2009 ko lang talaga in-open ang sarili ko sa tithing... in it's biblical concept. pero hindi ko lang talaga ma-reconcile why i should give sa church na ang priority is pagpapaganda ng interior at exterior ng simbahan at sound system. and yes, naghanap na ako ng ibang simbahan at nakapag-reality check na ako.

pero ano ba talaga, 10% pa din or yung pinost ng isang sis na sabi ni Jesus sa new testament na give what you can give with a joyful heart? nako-confuse na ako.  ;D
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Re: Regarding tithes
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2009, 09:12:23 PM »
Yes sis, 10% pa din. That is God's command. What you give beyond that 10% is already considered an offereing. Tithes is different from offering.
Sa offering, ok lang kahit magkano basta kung ano ang kaya mo or whatever amount your heart desires to give, pero ang tithing is a command from God na dapat 10% of your income ang binibigay.

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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2009, 09:46:46 PM »
^ngek! so technically sis, hindi pa din ako nagta-tithe kasi walang 10% yung binibigay ko like pag nagko-collect sa misa?

so unless maka-10% ako hindi pa din yun tithe? offering lang? how about yung donations sa charitable institutions or yung pina-plano kong i-donate na clothes and stuff sa Caritas / Fr. Anton na nagbebenta ng stuff ukay-ukay style para magka-pondo?

yun pong na-cite nung isang sis sa new testament na sabi ni Jesus, hindi po tithing yun?
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2009, 02:06:37 AM »
I totally agree. And if you give, give it with a cheerful heart. Kasi kung napipilitan ka lang, wala din, it will not be a good offering to the Lord. Kawawa ka naman, nagbigay ka na ng tithes, bali wala lang pala kasi napilitan ka lang.

Hay naku, POUTY GURL -- thank you for clarify the 10% of what.
Achievable that 10% -- making it into a habit is achievable, sure.

BUT to say na kelangan with a "happy heart" -- oo, happy ako I can share -- pero hindi ako happy if I give it to my parish.  Happy ako talaga when I give it to a foundation/cause/charity.  Mas happy ako giving to Gawad Kalingan kesa sa Santuario de San Jose in Greenhills.  Sorry, but true.

So yun ang dilemma ko -- the happy in giving to whom??

Atchaka hindi ba "charity begins at home.... and never leaves it"?
Meaning, won't God be happier with me if my tithing goes to extra help to people under my employ?  Teka, let us make something clear ha -- my house staff and business employees get a very good compensation package.  Kaya nga nobody can pirate my house staff away from me eh.  Now, if I give extra over and above that good compensation package to my house or office staff -- kasi nakikita ko hirap pa rin sa dami nang anak, pagka irresponsable ng asawa, whatever reason --  puede na kaya ma consider yon as part of my tithe?

Kung minsan, iniisip ko that higher education creates more complications for one.  Ang dami dami mong nakikitang alternatives kasi.  At times I feel guilty kasi -- well, sa dami nang iniisip ko -- I don't think God is looking for a "deal". 

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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2009, 08:16:16 AM »
^ngek! so technically sis, hindi pa din ako nagta-tithe kasi walang 10% yung binibigay ko like pag nagko-collect sa misa?

so unless maka-10% ako hindi pa din yun tithe? offering lang? how about yung donations sa charitable institutions or yung pina-plano kong i-donate na clothes and stuff sa Caritas / Fr. Anton na nagbebenta ng stuff ukay-ukay style para magka-pondo?

yun pong na-cite nung isang sis sa new testament na sabi ni Jesus, hindi po tithing yun?

The word tithe is based on the number ten in Hebrew, so if its not 10% its not tithing

Will a man rob God?
Yet you have robbed Me!
But you say,
In what way have we robbed you?
In tithes and offerings.
You are cursed with a curse
For you have robbed Me,
Even this whole nation .
Bring all the tithes into the
storehouse ,
That there may be food in My house,
And try Me now in this
Says  the Lord of hosts,
If I will not open for you the windows
of heaven
And pour out for you such blessing
That there will not be room enough to
receive it

Malachi 3:8-10

What a challenge! Will we take it up? God's promises have been tried and proven. This includes the promises regarding tithing.  God invites us to try Him, to prove His wisdom, to test His truth. He doesn't need the money. He simply wants us to discover the rewards of obedience. Giving is God's supernatural means of priming the pump of divine supply.  We initiate it by faith, not reason.  Giving to God is the prerequisite for enjoying true financial freedom.



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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2009, 08:24:20 AM »
don't get me wrong... i don't intend to tithe lang only AFTER i've been blessed (e.g. promoted or me salary increase or pag nanalo na ako sa lotto which is malabong mangyari dahil hindi naman ako tumataya).

kahit ngayon nagta-tithe ako, altho hindi pa nga lang 10% of my income kasi hindi ko pa kaya, hindi ko pa alam kung paano, hindi pa sapat ang spiritual maturity ko to really give 10% of my income, etc. but what i'm saying is i plan to give MORE pag na-promote ako or nagka-salary increase... kasi nga sa ngayon we have money problems pa na hinahanapan ko pa ng solution. kaya ko nga hinanap kung ano talaga yung tithing at bakit sinasabi ng marami na mas nabe-bless sila pag nagta-tithe sila.

ang intention ko is to set-up an auto-debit sa account ko for my tithe. yun ang sinasabi kong uumpisahan kong covenant with the Lord, especially kung mapo-promote ako, hoping na masunod ko na yung 10% requirement. baby steps pa lang ako, marami pa akong nire-reconcile sa puso ko kaya hindi ko naman binibigla only to fail in the end.

aminado naman ako na this 2009 ko lang talaga in-open ang sarili ko sa tithing... in it's biblical concept. pero hindi ko lang talaga ma-reconcile why i should give sa church na ang priority is pagpapaganda ng interior at exterior ng simbahan at sound system. and yes, naghanap na ako ng ibang simbahan at nakapag-reality check na ako.

pero ano ba talaga, 10% pa din or yung pinost ng isang sis na sabi ni Jesus sa new testament na give what you can give with a joyful heart? nako-confuse na ako.  ;D

"Wow," you say. "How can I give God anything when I can't even pay my bills?
Doesn't God expect me to take care of debts first?"
At first glance, such a response sounds reasonable.  The problem is , it's not God's response.  He insists that if don't give, then we are robbing Him-and we will end up in worse financial shape than ever.
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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2009, 08:38:40 PM »
^ eh sis question... kung 10% nga how do you give it, do you drop it sa collection during the mass or ide-derecho mo sa parish office or pag me nakita akong donation boxes sa simbahan dun ko pwedeng ilagay?

kasi, if i'm earning 10k, so 10% nun is 1k... ilalaglag ko na lang during the collection? i'm just wondering... dun sa kumikita ng 100k, na dapat 10k ang tithe di ba, ano yun same manner, ihuhulog sa collection during the mass? what if hindi tig-1k bills, say 500 bills, eh di ang kapal nun at ang daming piraso?

uulitin ko, pasensya na po kung seemingly stupid ang mga tanong ko... ngayon lang po ako nag-uumpisa na i-try gawin ang pagta-tithe and i really have no idea how to actually go about it.
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« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2009, 06:58:24 PM »
^ eh sis question... kung 10% nga how do you give it, do you drop it sa collection during the mass or ide-derecho mo sa parish office or pag me nakita akong donation boxes sa simbahan dun ko pwedeng ilagay?

kasi, if i'm earning 10k, so 10% nun is 1k... ilalaglag ko na lang during the collection? i'm just wondering... dun sa kumikita ng 100k, na dapat 10k ang tithe di ba, ano yun same manner, ihuhulog sa collection during the mass? what if hindi tig-1k bills, say 500 bills, eh di ang kapal nun at ang daming piraso?

uulitin ko, pasensya na po kung seemingly stupid ang mga tanong ko... ngayon lang po ako nag-uumpisa na i-try gawin ang pagta-tithe and i really have no idea how to actually go about it.

Well sis in my church i just give it during collection time. Kasi sa amin we only have one collection during the service. I'm sure those people who earn big give their offerings through cheques. But you know sis when  you give your contribution in whatever way , don't worry what's going to happen to it or how your church is going to use it, you are not in control of it anymore. God knows that you did your part with a sincere and honest heart, what happens after tha,t is not your problem anymore.
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« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2009, 07:18:52 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2009, 10:46:02 PM »
Do I "tithe"? the answer is NO.  Does it mean I don't give? Ofcourse not. I do. Christian giving is voluntary. It takes into account that each individual has different circumstances in life. “If the readiness is there first,” the Bible says, “it is especially acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what a person does not have.”

Hindi na applicable sa atin ang tithing (10% or anumang fixed percentage ng assets). May special purpose  lamang ito ito kaya ginawa ito ng mga Israelites a long time ago. Here it goes -

"Tithing" was part of Mosaic Law to the "ancient" nation of Israel. Twelve tribes of Israel were required by law to support a 13th tribe, the priestly Levites, who had no land inheritance. This enabled the Levites to concentrate on the spiritual needs of the nation. (Numbers 18:21-24) Hindi lahat ng Israelita pwedeng maging priest (mga Levites lang) but everyone could share in the support of the priestly service through the "tithe". So from Israelites up to Jewish's time before Jesus' came, "tithing" was observed.

Now, when Jesus came and after he died on and resurrected, na-abolished na ang Mosaic Law. There were, though, a few “necessary things” that must be obeyed. Eto “The holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication.” (Acts 15:25, 28, 29) Interestingly, God’s law on tithing was not listed among the “necessary things” for Christians. This is also the reason kung bakit hindi na rin applicable sa atin ang observance ng "Sabbath".

Later, the apostle Paul stressed again that God’s Law covenant with Israel had been abolished by Jesus’ death. “[God] blotted out the handwritten document,” he said, “and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.” (Colossians 2:14) This does not mean that Christians have no law. Rather, there has been a change of law that now involves “the law of the Christ.”—Galatians 6:2; Hebrews 7:12.

So nung panahon ni Pablo nung unang nag-form na yung mga unang congregation,  he never appealed for payment in the form of tithes. Rather, he was willing to cover his own expenses by working as a tentmaker on a part-time basis. (Acts 18:3, 4) In all honesty he could say: “These hands have attended to the needs of me and of those with me.”—Acts 20:34.

So all in all, hindi na tayo required magbigay ng tithes, kundi kung ano ang bukal sa puso - 5%, 60%, .02%.







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« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2009, 01:35:01 AM »
Do I "tithe"? the answer is NO.  Does it mean I don't give? Ofcourse not. I do. Christian giving is voluntary. It takes into account that each individual has different circumstances in life. “If the readiness is there first,” the Bible says, “it is especially acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what a person does not have.”

Hindi na applicable sa atin ang tithing (10% or anumang fixed percentage ng assets). May special purpose  lamang ito ito kaya ginawa ito ng mga Israelites a long time ago. Here it goes -

"Tithing" was part of Mosaic Law to the "ancient" nation of Israel. Twelve tribes of Israel were required by law to support a 13th tribe, the priestly Levites, who had no land inheritance. This enabled the Levites to concentrate on the spiritual needs of the nation. (Numbers 18:21-24) Hindi lahat ng Israelita pwedeng maging priest (mga Levites lang) but everyone could share in the support of the priestly service through the "tithe". So from Israelites up to Jewish's time before Jesus' came, "tithing" was observed.

Now, when Jesus came and after he died on and resurrected, na-abolished na ang Mosaic Law. There were, though, a few “necessary things” that must be obeyed. Eto “The holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication.” (Acts 15:25, 28, 29) Interestingly, God’s law on tithing was not listed among the “necessary things” for Christians. This is also the reason kung bakit hindi na rin applicable sa atin ang observance ng "Sabbath".

Later, the apostle Paul stressed again that God’s Law covenant with Israel had been abolished by Jesus’ death. “[God] blotted out the handwritten document,” he said, “and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.” (Colossians 2:14) This does not mean that Christians have no law. Rather, there has been a change of law that now involves “the law of the Christ.”—Galatians 6:2; Hebrews 7:12.

So nung panahon ni Pablo nung unang nag-form na yung mga unang congregation,  he never appealed for payment in the form of tithes. Rather, he was willing to cover his own expenses by working as a tentmaker on a part-time basis. (Acts 18:3, 4) In all honesty he could say: “These hands have attended to the needs of me and of those with me.”—Acts 20:34.

So all in all, hindi na tayo required magbigay ng tithes, kundi kung ano ang bukal sa puso - 5%, 60%, .02%.











I totaly agree!  as I've said in my post  di na tayo  sakop ng tithes of 10% it is during the law of Moises na inutos ni God sa mga Israel dahil sa pag liligtas nya sa bayan ng Egypt. In times of our Lord Jesus Christ it is very clear na magbigay ayon sa bukal ng iyong kalooban. Mas kinagagalak ng Diyos.
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« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2009, 05:46:04 AM »
Do I "tithe"? the answer is NO.  Does it mean I don't give? Ofcourse not. I do. Christian giving is voluntary. It takes into account that each individual has different circumstances in life. “If the readiness is there first,” the Bible says, “it is especially acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what a person does not have.”

Hindi na applicable sa atin ang tithing (10% or anumang fixed percentage ng assets). May special purpose  lamang ito ito kaya ginawa ito ng mga Israelites a long time ago. Here it goes -

"Tithing" was part of Mosaic Law to the "ancient" nation of Israel. Twelve tribes of Israel were required by law to support a 13th tribe, the priestly Levites, who had no land inheritance. This enabled the Levites to concentrate on the spiritual needs of the nation. (Numbers 18:21-24) Hindi lahat ng Israelita pwedeng maging priest (mga Levites lang) but everyone could share in the support of the priestly service through the "tithe". So from Israelites up to Jewish's time before Jesus' came, "tithing" was observed.

Now, when Jesus came and after he died on and resurrected, na-abolished na ang Mosaic Law. There were, though, a few “necessary things” that must be obeyed. Eto “The holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication.” (Acts 15:25, 28, 29) Interestingly, God’s law on tithing was not listed among the “necessary things” for Christians. This is also the reason kung bakit hindi na rin applicable sa atin ang observance ng "Sabbath".

Later, the apostle Paul stressed again that God’s Law covenant with Israel had been abolished by Jesus’ death. “[God] blotted out the handwritten document,” he said, “and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.” (Colossians 2:14) This does not mean that Christians have no law. Rather, there has been a change of law that now involves “the law of the Christ.”—Galatians 6:2; Hebrews 7:12.

So nung panahon ni Pablo nung unang nag-form na yung mga unang congregation,  he never appealed for payment in the form of tithes. Rather, he was willing to cover his own expenses by working as a tentmaker on a part-time basis. (Acts 18:3, 4) In all honesty he could say: “These hands have attended to the needs of me and of those with me.”—Acts 20:34.

So all in all, hindi na tayo required magbigay ng tithes, kundi kung ano ang bukal sa puso - 5%, 60%, .02%.

The Old Testament and the New Testament co-exist I believe.  What's the use of publishing the Old Testament in the Bible if it's useless? If everything there has been abolished. What about the Ten Commandments has that been abolished too?As a matter of fact Jesus said this at the Sermon on the Mount

Matthew 5:17-18, "Think not that I came to abolish the law, or the prophets: I came not to abolish, but to fulfill. For verily I say to you, Until heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle in no wise shall pass away from the law, until all be fulfilled."

Jesus taught us new ways to see the law in the NT but He didn't teach us new laws. Everything that Jesus taught was in the OT or else He wouldn't have said "it is written" or " it is said"--said where?written where? The answer in the OT. The OT is till binding.








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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2009, 10:18:23 AM »
tithing is offering and giving back what the Lord has blessed us. at first mahirap, parang 1K would go along way before the next payday pero i still trust the lord and give what is due to him.
Giving to charities and other donations aside from tithes are the fruits of our love to our neighbors. but that doesnt cover what we have to give to the Lord.

For me, we have to have the heart to give our tithes, i honestly say na there are times na i fail due to financial constraints but mabigat sa puso talaga and kaka-guilty.. notice niyo that you cant give that tithe pero if you are going to sum it up, nagagastos natin yun sa mga less important things..

true, we give to the lord, what the chusrch officials do to the money they collect is beyond our control, sila ang responsible and accountable if they dont use it for God.

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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2009, 12:25:08 PM »
Tithing is still the right practice of our day, the promise to tithers (found in Malachi 3:10-12) still apply; for while Jesus removed the curse of the Law, the promise to those who practice this form of giving still applies.
Although the tithe is not mandatory in the sense that it is not obligatory. We don't tithe because we have to. But, as the right thing, as the blessed act, every Christian who loves God should demonstrate that love with their tithe.
So then, Is God perfectly okay if certain ones choose not to tithe? I don't believe for one moment that He is. God has given the charge of the keeping of the house to every Christian. We are responsible for building the Kingdom, and He's even established that our FIRST priority should be the things of God (Matt. 6:31-33).
Some posts in this thread may seem confusing, or like a contradiction; but to state it in one statement, for clarification: The tithe is no longer mandatory, but from God's perspective, it is expected.  Consider fasting. It is not mandated to the Christian Church, but it is, in fact, expected as a component of Christian living. God expects us to fast. He expects us to pray. He expects us to be cheerful givers. He also expects us to tithe.  ;)

But even if we do tithe, know that it is still meaningless if you practice it para lang masabi that you are doing it like the rest of us..  Here is a Scripture in the New Testament regarding the right practice in tithing: Mt 23:23 NIV-YOU GIVE A TENTH OF YOUR SPICES (that’s tithe)—MINT, DILL AND CUMMIN (in other words, everything). BUT YOU HAVE NEGLECTED THE MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS OF THE LAW—JUSTICE, MERCY AND FAITHFULNESS. Now, listen to the next words. YOU SHOULD HAVE PRACTICED THE LATTER, WITHOUT NEGLECTING THE FORMER. What was the former? your tithe. Without neglecting tithing. There it is. You see, the problem was they were giving the tenth, but they were not walking in faith; they were not practicing justice. Jesus tells us to do both.
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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2009, 05:26:27 PM »
tithing is..
* 10% of our income after tax.
* It is a priority over everything else we need to spend on.
* It is given to the immediate body of Christ where one receives his support in the Christian life (religious community or parish/church)

tithes will be used for: evangelization, members' formation, community activities, administrative expenses, etc.

Scriptural basis: Malachi 3:7b?10

* We rob God if we don't tithe.  Simply because the money is His in the first place and He's just asking us to turn over 10% of His own money.

* We tithe so that there may be "food in God's house." Food is life-giving.  The tithes support our work for the Lord, which work gives life to many couples.

*open the floodgates": God can never be outdone in generosity. We will always receive more than we give (not necessarily in terms of money).

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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2009, 08:47:33 PM »
tithe = 10% of your Gross Income

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« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2009, 10:00:53 PM »
sa akin pong pananaw, ang pagbibigay ng tithes could be in many forms.  Since it is a form of thanks that we owe our God, it is not obligatory but rather it should be in the form of our sincere gratitude, submission and obedience to the Lord. 

I remember a day in Christ's life when He told His apostles that the Heavenly Father is happy with the woman, who was almost a beggar but still gave a couple of silver coins in the temple, because she is offering to the Lord what she really cannot afford to give because there's nothing left much for her to live by.  That is probably more than 10%.

I think these days, tithes could be in many forms as long as the main point is to give/share yourself to others.  And you share yourself not only to the church but you may share what you can offer to the people of the church and this could be anyone that needs your assistance... not necessarily monetary.

I think our Lord will be happier if we take every opportunity to share ourselves to others when others knocks on our doors.

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« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2009, 01:45:10 AM »



I totaly agree!  as I've said in my post  di na tayo  sakop ng tithes of 10% it is during the law of Moises na inutos ni God sa mga Israel dahil sa pag liligtas nya sa bayan ng Egypt. In times of our Lord Jesus Christ it is very clear na magbigay ayon sa bukal ng iyong kalooban. Mas kinagagalak ng Diyos.

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« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2009, 02:00:58 AM »
2 Corinto 9:7
     Magbigay ang bawa't isa ayon sa ipinasya ng kaniyang puso; huwag mabigat sa loob o dahil sa ipinipilit : sapagka't  iniibig ng Diyos ang nagbibigay ng masaya.


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  2.  At nakita nya ang isang dukhang babaing bao na doo'y naghulog ng dalawang lepta ,

  3.  At sinabi niya, sa katotohana'y sinabi ko sa inyo. Ang dukang babaing baong ito ay naghulog ng higit kaysa sa kanilang lahat.
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Re: Regarding tithes
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2009, 02:39:31 AM »
I agree dun sa sinabi nung isang sister natin dito hindi lang naman money ang pwede nating ihandog sa Diyos eh,  katunayan nga kung galing pa sa masama like ang iaabuloy mo like sugal, pandaraya, pagnanakaw  ang pera na i aabuloy mo eh di malulugod ang Diyos dun.

Kawikaan 15:8
    Ang hain ng masama ay kasuklamsuklam sa Panginoon ;Ngunit ang handog ng matuwid ay kaniyang kaluguran.


in fact ang ating mismong sarili ang pinaka magandang handog sa ating Diyos.

Filipos 2:17
   Oo kahit ako'y maging hain sa paghahandog at paglilingkod ng inyong pananampalataya, ako'y nakikipag katuwa, at nakikigalak sa inyong lahat.

also in books of hebrew

Hebrews 12:28
    If then, we have a kingdom which will never be moved, let us have grace, so that we may give God such worship as is pleasing to him with fear and respect.
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