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Regarding tithes
« on: January 28, 2009, 06:20:40 PM »
Sisters do you believe in tithing? Do give you a tenth of your income to your church? We should always keep in mind that God gives us this tenth in the first place. It is never ours, and besides all we have comes from God. God owns it all. He is only asking one-tenth of it.   "All things come from You, and of Your own we have given You" (1Chron. 29:14)
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Re: Regarding tithes
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2009, 06:27:52 PM »
yes, i believe and practice giving tithes..
di ba sa bible, it says, 10% of your income..
but kung di talaga kakayanin, kung ano na lang makakaya..
giving donation during mass is also considered as tithes.. ;)

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Re: Regarding tithes
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2009, 09:31:08 PM »
Yes, i do give 10%. Actually i made a covenant with God eh, 15% ang binibigay ko at pag ka sweldong pag ka sweldo, kaltas na agad yun. First fruit kagad, di pwedeng left over lang sa Lord, kumbaga eh kung anong matira?

Pero totoo once you give, he will give it back to you more than what you gave. May business din ako on the side aside from my regular job, sa business naman ang covenant ko is 20% of my income. To be honest, di talaga nagkukulang. I'm so thankful sa mother ko na early on, tinuro na nya sakin ang importance ng tithing. So i never struggled with it. Yan daw ang susi sa pagiging successful. Kaya mga christian mommies, teach this principle to your kids.

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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2009, 10:20:32 PM »
If for example, your contract/pay is for P10.  But after taxes and whatever -- your net receipts amount to P7. 
Tithing is 10% of what?  10% of the P10 or the P7?   :)

Who do you give it to?
I tend to give more to charities, not the church.
Kelangan ba to the church?
Nakakawalang gana kasi I see our parish priest naka Rolex, naka new model SUV, masungit when you ask him to bless a religious article --  parang istorbo ka pa until your body language indicates that you will be paying him and making it worth his while.  LOL

Can somebody enlighten me on the above?  Thanks!

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Re: Regarding tithes
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2009, 10:27:13 PM »
10% of the 7.

Well, im just speaking for myself and my own convictions. I'm a born again christian so I give my tithes to the church that i go to. I don't care anymore what they do with it, as long as i am faithful to God in the area of giving.

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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2009, 01:19:48 AM »
^^ naku sis aquacharly yan din mga questions at comments ko!

di ko din feel magbigay masyado sa church kasi dun sa parish namin nagdo-double collection pa sila para sa sound system kuno ng simbahan, pagpapaganda ng simbahan, etc. feeling ko lang kasi ang daming nahihirap sa nakapaligid na community, uunahin pa ba ang pagpapaganda ng simbahan?

oo alam kong bahay ng Diyos ang simbahan pero hindi kaya mas pleasing ke God na imbes na pagandahin ng pagandahin yung bahay Nya eh itulong na lang sa mga kapuspalad? tapos lahat ng services ng simbahan eh me bayad nga... so parang nakakawalang gana.

to be honest, ngayon ko palang ini-start ito. nahihirapan din ako kasi hindi naman kalakihan ang kita namin tapos me baby kami at marami kaming bayarin. buti pa si pouty_gurl nagagawang automatic ang tithing.

pero ang dami na ring nagsasabi na pag nagta-tithe sila binabalik naman talaga ng Diyos ang blessing, in one way or the other, kaya nakumbinsi ako na gawin 'to starting this year.

nung nag-start ako, January 4 yun, bibigay ko na sana yung usual na P50 ko sa misa, sometimes P20 nga lang. pero di matahimik ang puso ko. sabi ng kunsensiya ko ibigay ko yung P500 na ipambibili ko sana ng gamot sa ubo. ewan ko ba pero parang me nagsasabi sa akin na magtiwala sa Diyos na kahit ibigay ko yung P500 eh okay lang at bahala na ang Diyos sa ubo ko.  ;D so ayun... binigay ko yung P500 ko.

madalas nahihirapan pa din ako to tithe, kasi nga mabigat sa dibdib talaga pag pera ang kailangan mo tapos ang kailangan mong i-tithe is pera din. siguro kulang pa talaga ako sa spiritual maturity para to totally put my trust in the Lord. Sana nga ma-overcome ko ito para bagyuhin na ako ng blessings lalo. 

me nakita pa akong alternative... meron yung Caritas yata na nagko-collect sila ng mga things na di mo na ginagamit then binebenta nila tapos ginagamit yung proceeds sa works of charity. balak ko kasi before na i-ebay yung mga gamit namin para nga extra cash sana... pero siguro ibigay ko na nga lang sa charity at least nakatulong na ako nakapag-tithe pa ako. okay kaya ito sis pouty_gurl?

 
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2009, 02:21:23 AM »
RASPBERRY  LOL pareho tayo nang takbo ng utak on this matter ha.

Puede nga ba in kind na lang?
Or, partly in kind.  :)

Yes, RASPBERRY, bakit ba double collection pa for this and that.
Bakit kahit na once lang eh -- kayo Padre ang humingi sa pagkayaman yamang Vatican to pay for the church repairs/maintenance/improvement?
Eh when you go to the Vatican and its museum -- ngek!  Super ganda, super borloloy, kahit hindi na kelangan ng additional borloloy kasi maganda na -- eh pinagkakabit kabit pa. All the riches on display, dami pa nakabodega daw.

I also prefer giving to charitable organizations.
1 that I consistently give to is a foundation that shelters and educates abused girls -- until the girl reaches 18.  These are girls who are removed by the DSWD  from their homes and families kasi the abuser is in the house (father, step father, brothers, tiyo -- you name the "animal" eh andoon living with the abused).
Mas maluwag for me to give there than to my Rolex-wearing parish priest in his latest-model SUV.   :)

O sige, natural birth control lang.  Do not give access to all other kinds of birth control.  That is what the Church harps on.  Pero what are they doing to all these street children?  Pinakakain ba nila? 
So, as RASPBERRY would ask -- okay na rin ba the tithe goes direct to those in need like those palaboy laboy street children?

Eh ayoko naman ma tempt na isipin when I tithe -- san kaya ito idadagdag?  Sa GB5, for a Breitling watch?  LOL, peace!

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Re: Regarding tithes
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2009, 02:47:05 AM »
^ very well said sis aquacharly! my sentiments exactly. malamang hindi din ako magbigay sa parish priest na naka-rolex at SUV... kasi mas dapat yatang ako ang manghingi sa kanya!  ;D

i mean, di kaya mas marami siyang matulungan kung ibe-benta nya yung rolex nya at gagamitin sa charity works ng simbahan? ako nga ni sa pangarap hindi makaka-afford ng rolex watch eh! pero eto ako at willing naman mag-tithe at tumulong sa mga kapuspalad in whatever way i could.

isa nga din sa mga question ko yang kung bakit kailangan mag-collect-collect para lang sa pagpapagawa ng simbahan. wala ba silang pondo considering na hindi na nga tina-tax ang income ng simbahan.

kailangan ba talagang pagandahin ng pagandahin ang simbahan? i must admit imbes sa parish namin mas madalas pa ako magsimba sa The Block sa SM North. Yun hindi pa simbahan talaga (altho i think simbahan yung isang structure na ginagawa dun ngayon) kasi it's just a makeshift altar and some chairs. so baket kailangang pagandahin ng pagandahin ang mga simbahan? ang aim ba is to attract parishioners or church-goers?

personally, ako nagsisimba lang sa isang church kung okay yung pari magmisa. kung magaling siya mag-sermon or if his words really touches me. hindi ganun yung sa parish namin. super turned off ako sa double collection na ginagawa nila at pagbebenta ng kung [textspeak!]-anong raffle ticket para daw mapaganda yung sound system at matapos yung beautification ng simbahan.

my God (sensya na Lord, asar talaga ako)! kung nagbebenta sila ng raffle ticket para makapag-feed the hungry o makapagpatayo ng shelter para sa abandoned kids or whatever baka bumili ako ng isang booklet! pero para pagandahin ang sound system at church interiors and exteriors???

gagawin ko na din siguro yung covenant na ginawa ni sis pouty_gurl, basta matanggap ako sa position na ina-apply-an ko dito sa amin (malaking promotion kasi  ;D) eh mag-a-automate na din ako ng pag-set-aside ng pang-tithe. iipunin ko muna tapos at the end of the year ibi-bigay ko sa institution na mapipili ko like bantay-bata and others supporting kids and elderly. parang mas magaan sa loob ko yung ganun kesa mag-tithe sa simbahan kahit sabihin pang okay na basta alam mong nasunod mo yung obligasyon mo sa Diyos.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2009, 04:02:18 AM »
I just want to share some verse sa bible na it shows the tithes of 10% of income or so.. ay iniutos ng Diyos para sa bayan ng Israel .

Bilang 18:8
     At sinalita ng Panginoon kay Aaron, At ako'y natiro aking ibinigay sa iyo ang katungkulan sa mga handog na itinaas sa aking, lahat ng mga banal na bagay ng mga anak ni Israel ; aking ibinigay sa iyo dahil sa pagpapahid, at sa inyong mga anak na marapt na bahagi ninyo  magpakailan pa man.

Bilang 18:24
     Sapagka't ang ikasampung bahagi ng tinatangkilik ng mga anak ni Israel   na kanilang ihahandog na pinakahandog na itinaas sa Panginoon ay aking binigay sa mga Levita  na pinakamana; kaya't aking sinabi sa kanila, sa gitna ng mga anak ni Israel ay hindi sila magkakaroon ng mana.

    25.  At sinalita ng Paningnoon kay Moises na sinasabi,

    25.  Bukod dito'y sasalitain mo sa mga Levita, at sasabihin mo sa kanila, pagkuha ninyo sa mga anak ni Israel ng ikasampung bahagi na aking ibinigay sa inyong pinakamana ay inyong ihahandog nga na pinakahandog na itinaas sa Panginoon, ang ikasampung bahagi.


malinaw na sa bayan ng Israel iniutos ng Diyos ang 10% income na isinulat ni Moises, na pinaka handog sa kanyang pagliligtas sa bayan ng Israel. At tubusin sa sala ang bayan ng Israel.

Ezekiel 20:40
    Sapagka't sa aking banal na bundok, sa kaitaasan ng Israel, sabi ng Panginoong Diyos doon ako paglilingkuran sa lupain ng buong sambayanan ng Israel nilang lahat: doo'y tatangapin ko sila, at doon ko hihingin ang inyong mga handog, at ang mga unang bunga na inyong mga alay, sangpu ng lahat ninyong banal na bagay.

     41. Parang masarap na amoy na tatangapin ko kayo, pagka kayo'y aking naihiwalay sa mga bayan, at napisan ko kayo mula sa mga lupain na inyong pingangalatan; at ako'y ipaaari ninyong  a paningin ng mga bansa.

I Cronica 6:49
     Nguni't si Aaron at ang kanyang mga anak ay nagsipag handog sa ibabaw ng dambana na handog na susunugin, at sa dambana ng kamangyan para sa buong gawain sa kabanalbanalang dako ,at upang tubusin sa sala ang Israel, ayon sa lahat ng iniutos ni Moises na lingkod ng Diyos.


Sa bagong tipan or new testament kung san ang bagong saserdote ng bagong tipan ay si Jesus, itinuro nya sa mga apostol ang pag aabuoy na kung san ang kalooban ang mag papasya at ayon sa kanyang makakayanan.


1 Timoteo 5:16    
     Kung ang sinomang babaing nananampalataya ay may inaampong babaing bao,  ay umabuloy sa kanila at huwag pabigatan ng Iglesia, upang maabuluyan nito ang tunay na bao.

2 Corinto 9:7
     Magbigay ang bawa't isa ayon sa ipinasya ng kaniyang puso; huwag mabigat sa loob o dahil sa ipinipilit : sapagka't  iniibig ng Diyos ang nagbibigay ng masaya.


2 Corinto 8:3
    Sapagka't ayon sa kanilang kaya ay nagpapatotoo ako at higit pa sa kanilang kaya ay nagsiabuloy sila sa sariling kalooban.


Lucas 21:1
   At nakita ng Panginoon ang mga taong mayayaman na nanghuhulog ng kanilang mga alay sa kabang yaman

  2.  At nakita nya ang isang dukhang babaing bao na doo'y naghulog ng dalawang lepta ,

  3.  At sinabi niya, sa katotohana'y sinabi ko sa inyo. Ang dukang babaing baong ito ay naghulog ng higit kaysa sa kanilang lahat.



malinaw sa biblia, Ang paghahandog ng abuloy sa Diyos ay ayon sa ating nakayanan or pasya ng ating puso kalooban, yun po ang ikinagagalak ng Diyos, yun pong 10% di po para sa lahat yun utos po yun ng Diyos sa bayan ng Israel dahil sa paglilgatas ng Diyos sa kanila, pero po pagdating ni Jesus sa bagong tipan binago na po nya ang abuluyan.



 
















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Re: Regarding tithes
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2009, 04:41:43 AM »
If for example, your contract/pay is for P10.  But after taxes and whatever -- your net receipts amount to P7. 
Tithing is 10% of what?  10% of the P10 or the P7?   :)

Who do you give it to?
I tend to give more to charities, not the church.
Kelangan ba to the church?
Nakakawalang gana kasi I see our parish priest naka Rolex, naka new model SUV, masungit when you ask him to bless a religious article --  parang istorbo ka pa until your body language indicates that you will be paying him and making it worth his while.  LOL

Can somebody enlighten me on the above?  Thanks!

It looks as if if you are unhappy with the church you're attending, maybe it's time to look for another church sis

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Re: Regarding tithes
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2009, 04:46:01 AM »
yes, i believe and practice giving tithes..
di ba sa bible, it says, 10% of your income..
but kung di talaga kakayanin, kung ano na lang makakaya..
giving donation during mass is also considered as tithes.. ;)


Sis you take out the 10% of your net income keep it aside and give it to your church, whatever that's  left is yours.  Tithing is a sign of obedience to God, you don't give Him what is left after you've spent what you earned. 

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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2009, 06:38:15 AM »
Sisters do you believe in tithing? Do give you a tenth of your income to your church? We should always keep in mind that God gives us this tenth in the first place. It is never ours, and besides all we have comes from God. God owns it all. He is only asking one-tenth of it.   "All things come from You, and of Your own we have given You" (1Chron. 29:14)

yes i do, kaya lang minsan pumapalpak..like last year, may isang payday na di ako nakabigay.

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2009, 07:26:12 AM »
The purpose of tithings is to put God first in your life.

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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2009, 09:38:28 AM »
Aside from obedience to God as many of you ladies mentioned, to me, tithing taught me two things:

1.  Putting God first.
2.  The gift of giving.

In the subject of tithing, giving can be hard at times, sacrificial even but that makes tithing all the more capable of blessing the tither.  I've been tithing since October 2007, since then I was blessed with so many things that I cannot count them all.  Amongst these blessings is not having to scrimp for money, I always have a little more than I need.  Believe me, this is just the bonus part.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2009, 02:00:55 PM »
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personally, ako nagsisimba lang sa isang church kung okay yung pari magmisa. kung magaling siya mag-sermon or if his words really touches me. hindi ganun yung sa parish namin. super turned off ako sa double collection na ginagawa nila at pagbebenta ng kung [textspeak!]-anong raffle ticket para daw mapaganda yung sound system at matapos yung beautification ng simbahan.

suggest you do a reality check, Sis. Going to church is not about you, know that is an act of worship to God. Common mistake is to go to church para "ma-bless tayo" --it's the other way po... we should go to church with a desire to bless God.  At kun mahirap na para sa atin gawin yun, because we go to a church that does not edify the work of God, find na lang another church that worships God and God alone.  ;)
 
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2009, 02:05:42 PM »
And another thing, tithing is not conditional.. as in mag ti-tithe ka kapag na-bless ka na (e.g. na-promote, nagkaron ng salary adjustment, nanalo sa lotto  ;D ).  You have to know that -again, its the other way around... your faithfulness in giving your tithes will determine the blessings that you deserve.

 I am convinced that when people see the tithe as an instrument of blessing they will not be looking for a way to give less, but a way to give more.

Malachi 3:10 (New King James Version)

Bring all the tithes into the storehouse,
      That there may be food in My house,
      And try Me now in this,”
      Says the LORD of hosts,

      “ If I will not open for you the windows of heaven
      And pour out for you such blessing
      That there will not be room enough to receive it.
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2009, 02:24:48 PM »
In our church - the Pastor was teaching that the tithe is what the Lord requires of us - kumbaga daw 10% lang iyon. Ang 90% na galing din sa Panginoon ay para naman sa atin na.

Others who are blessed by the Lord opt to give more than 10% and he said that offering na daw ito (ang sobra sa 10%).

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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2009, 03:23:43 PM »
Sis you take out the 10% of your net income keep it aside and give it to your church, whatever that's  left is yours.  Tithing is a sign of obedience to God, you don't give Him what is left after you've spent what you earned. 

I totally agree. And if you give, give it with a cheerful heart. Kasi kung napipilitan ka lang, wala din, it will not be a good offering to the Lord. Kawawa ka naman, nagbigay ka na ng tithes, bali wala lang pala kasi napilitan ka lang.

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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2009, 03:34:27 PM »
Mga sis, alam niyo ba kung saan pwede magdonate ng clothes?
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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2009, 05:20:31 PM »
If for example, your contract/pay is for P10.  But after taxes and whatever -- your net receipts amount to P7. 
Tithing is 10% of what?  10% of the P10 or the P7?   :)

Who do you give it to?
I tend to give more to charities, not the church.
Kelangan ba to the church?
Nakakawalang gana kasi I see our parish priest naka Rolex, naka new model SUV, masungit when you ask him to bless a religious article --  parang istorbo ka pa until your body language indicates that you will be paying him and making it worth his while.  LOL

Can somebody enlighten me on the above?  Thanks!

The Lord is very specific in the way we are to give our tithes and offerings

First, we are to bring them into His storehouse.  Generally that meant His tabernacle or temple in the Old Testament , and the church in the New Testament.  We are to give our tithes wherever we regularly worship the Lord- not to a mere charitable work, but to a work that bears the Lord's name and spreads His gospel

Second, we are to make our gifts on a regular basis .  Paul advised the Corinthians, "On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come" ( 1 Cor. 16:2).

Third, we are to make our gifts joyfully.   People who give grudgingly, solely from a sense of duty, do not truly open up their lives to God's prosperity (2 Cor. 9:7-8) .  The joy in our hearts about giving is a direct expression of our trust in God to meet our needs.


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