Surname ng baby?

[mzganda]

Im pregnant right now and me and my bf are not yet married. Is it okey na kapag I gave birth ay surname ng bf ko ang gagamitin kase tanggap naman nya.. mapapa register ba namin sha kahit hindi pa kami kasal? need your opinion..thanks..

[prettynvain]

pwede. iaacknowledged lang ng father, may pipirmahan siya sa likod, acknowledgement of paternity.

pero marami tayong sisses na nagsisisi ngayon dahil sinunod nila sa surname ng father yung bata..

[michelle_balan]

pero marami tayong sisses na nagsisisi ngayon dahil sinunod nila sa surname ng father yung bata..

korek k dyan... ok yan kung eventually mag p2kasal kayo nka apelyido n kay bf.. but what if in the end d nman pla kau (oooppss wag po kayo magalit reality check lang po) tapos nka apelyido kay bf ang baby... maraming pwede mngyari habang dpa kau kasal then me baby n agad... though my son's father acknowledge him as his son sinunod ko pa rin sa apelyido ko kase d nman kame nag katuluyan... marami pa kasing ek..ek.. kung isusunod ko sa knya e...

think all the possibilities... (reality check gurl!!)

[chinita_charm]

paano kung kasal tapos nung buntis na naghiwalay..kung mangank pwede surname nya sa pagkadalaga ang gamitin? or pwede bang  d dineclare na married?

[aquacharly]

Yes.

Now, if both of you are single -- your baby is what is called a "natural child"  -- in between legitimate and illegitimate. -- mas lalong no problem with the child using the father's surname.

[ezekielle]

^ ano ba rights ng "natural child"? same lang din ba ng sa legitimate? or its just the term to call an illegitimate but acknowledged kid?

[aquacharly]

^A natural child is one whose parents are BOTH SINGLE  -- ayaw lang mag-asawa or hindi pa nag-aasawa.   Parang legitimate child yan,  whether the parents marry later or not. 

If the mother is single, the father is not single -- illegitimate child pa rin yan.  But now, they are allowed to carry their father's surname, basta pumayag ang father --- the law reversal is courtesy of  the old Ramon Revilla.  Yang law na yan reversed a previous existing 1 that says illegitimate children must carry their mother's surname.  LOL kasi nga naman as per public knowledge, kelangan ni Ramon Revilla and some of his sons that law.   

[ms. gold digger]

Mga sis, paano kung, nung nanganak yung mother, di pa married kaya sa kanya nakapangalan yung baby, pero eventually nagpakasal din.  di parin nailipat ang name sa father, tapos now, naghiwalay na, though di pa annulled.  paano yun?  paano malilipat sa name ng father, ano mga dapat gawin?

[aquacharly]

Bakit hindi pinangalan in the 1st place ang bata sa father?  Kahit hindi pa kasal eh puede naman ipangalan, kahit nga illegitimate basta the father ACCEPTS paternity of the child.     Tapos,  another "negligent oversight" --   bakit hindi nagawa when they got married?  Was the father denying paternity from the start?

Anyway,  given ganyan ang situation ngayon -- the timing is very complicated na -- get  a lawyer to help you with the documentary requirements.   Ang bata, KUNG GUSTO ng mother, has the LEGAL RIGHT to use the father's surname.  Quesehoda illegitimate, natural or legimate child yan -- it has the right to the father's surname.

Now, ibang usapan yan kung ang father ayaw umamin sya ang father ng bata.  Denial of paternity requires a more complicated legal answer.  May legal procedure required to prove paternity and to file a case in court to force the father to acknowledge paternity.  Get a competent lawyer for this, get a lawyer you trust lalo na kung ang father eh mapera or nakapuesto or influential.  Malaking laban yan, and you will need a lawyer na hindi kayang takutin or bilhin ng reluctant father. 

A case against the reluctant father eh magastos.  Pero isipin din ng mother,  kung talagang SIGURADO sya about the child's paternity -- eh go for it.  Pagnanalo sa case -- the kid gets to use the surname of the father AND (eto importante) gets the RIGHT TO INHERIT.  Also,  pag nag file ng case eh automatic hinihingi ang lawyer for the mother - reimbursement of legal expenses,  damages for sleepless nights, anguish etc etc maisaksak pa ng lawyer na magaling.  And so pagnanalo,  hindi lang reimbursed si mother,  baka kumita pa si mother sa pagkakapanalo ng kaso.

Basta tandaan mga Sis,  whatever the situation -- basta cooperative ang father,  there is no hadlang to the kid using the father's surname.  Kahit ilan pa ang asawa ng father -- the child has the right to the surname.  Pero,  kahit single ang father, pero ayaw umamin sya ang father --   yan ma-delay lang but eventually,  pag na prove ang paternity -- the child will use the father's surname.

[ms. gold digger]

Sis, thank you for your very informative reply.  Pero, wag ka magulat ha, it's the mother who has the problem, even from the start. 

Yung father, nasa abroad nung nanganak sya, pero ganun pa man, walang problema sa kanilang dalawa.  Nagulat nalang family ng lalake, hindi ipinangalan sa lalake yung bata.  Very much together naman sila that time, di pa lang kasal dahil wala pa sa plan.  So nung naghiwalay na sila, gusto parin syempre ng father ilipat sa kanya yung name, yung babae, parang ang gulo kausap.  Kung ano-ano hinihinging details sa father eh wala namang lawyer na involve.  Ang gusto sana ng father, yung malinis na mailipat sa kanya yung name after that, ma-annul na sila nung girl.

Para mainitindihan mo sis why parang ilag na ilag yung father sa girl, kasi the girl committed adultery, while he was working abroad.  Until now, galit parin yung guy, abot hanggang langit.  Kaya ang gusto nya sana, maayos lahat na lawyers lang ang haharap sa girl.

[aquacharly]

Sis , Ms GOLD DIGGER    nothing surprises me anymore these days -- LOL
                                     except siguro if GMA steps down 

The way I assess the relationship per your kwento -- umpisa pa lang eh the girl just isn't into the relationship wholeheartedly, for whatever personal reasons.  Malamang the pregnancy was unplanned, or  she just went along with it. 

Give her the benefit of the doubt, that she is a loving and responsible mother, let us assume that.  So she did not let her child use the father's surname from the start because ---  she already at that point intended to break off the relationship with the father.  (hence, the adultery -- eh na in love with someone else).

Because the intent to end ties with the father was already there,  she wisely did not use the surname for their child parang wala na silang pagtatalunan pa, and the child will not be subject to a custody tug-of-war.

Teka, kung nag adultery eh baka naman Sis your friend is just being honest with everyone --hindi nga kay alleged father ang bata but with the adulterous partner?  Baka hindi single or willing naman si adulterous partner, kaya eh di no choice but sa kanya na lang ang surname nang anak nya.

As my father says:    I am sure it is my grandchild 100% kung apo ko sa anak kong babae.  That says it all.

Does the guy/alleged father  want to run after the kid?  Then he is on the other side of the fence, sya force the issue to have his paternity and rights to the child proved.  That can also be done, and there is a legal procedure for that.

Hay naku, God bless the child!   

[ishy83]

Hi everyone.Napadaan lang.I have a question.I have a 5-month old daughter and I know it's a bit early to worry about this but I gave her my family name 'coz her father didn't know I got pregnant(or maybe he just didn't want to know).Anyway is it ok to leave her middle name blank just like that?'Coz if I give her my middle name,we would be like sisters right?I have friends who have done the same but I want to know the legal aspect of it all and if I will encounter any prob in the future.Thanks in advance to anyone who will reply

[ms. gold digger]

nope sis.  okay yung relasyon nila, 2 months lang palagi sa bansa yung guy, kaya di na natapos yung paglilipat ng name ng bata.  as in okay na okay sila.  talaga lang di kontento yung girl.  she's with someone new nga kaagad after nila maghiwalay, at di sa lover nya naging caused ng hiwalayan.

[aquacharly]

^Sis GOLD DIGGER

It is still weird, coz even if the father is here just for 2 months -- that is not an impediment to the processing of documents that are duly signed and fully accomplished.  Even if docs need to be signed while the father is abroad -- may FedEx naman di ba?

Anyway, that is all water under the bridge now since both (I assume per your post) are in the process of getting an annulment.

Sis,  you have to separate the 2 issues of the marriage and the child's surname.

Sa case na ito, sa na gets ko sa kwento ha -- both parents are not blocking the child using the surname of the father.  Na overtake lang sila ng events, or na delay lang ang pag asikaso (or napabayaan)  ang documentation for the kid.

Whatever happens to the child's parents (natapos annullment, nag remarry, remain single, live-in with another, etc.) -- kahit ano status nila -- Kahit ilan pa ang asawa  ng mother or father --  there is NO  legal impediment at all to the kid using the father's surname.  Kasi nga,  the father is not denying paternity and the mother is not blocking the father's claim of paternity.  The biological parents BOTH AGREE that the child is the father's child.   

Just get a competent lawyer who will file the right papers and case to straighten out the neglected documentation.  Kahit nga nasa abroad ang father,  kung kaya magpa annul ng marriage eh di kaya din magpa register ng kid under his surname. 
Do not co-mingle the docs and filing for the kid's use of the father's surname and the biological parents' annulment. 
Sis, papeles lang kelangan dyan.   

[swiTsuplada]

magkano kaya magpaayos ng ganito?

my case naman kasi, I chose not to put his name on the birth certificate kasi "no show" naman sya but he knows me anak kami... after a year nagkabalikan then nagkahiwalay na naman... but then sa kanya, gusto nya ilagay 'yung name nya sa birth certificate para naman sa kahihiyan daw ng bata... however, ayoko na surname nya gamitin... pwede kaya yun?

[kutingpie]

what if a married woman committed an affair resulting to a baby sa kalaguyo niya, ano ang magiging surname ng bata? sa husband niya (parang unfair naman ata yun ) 

[chocolate]

yup sa husband niya...
kasi according to the case of concepcion, decided 2006 ata.. basta it's a recent case...

that child born of the wife during the subsistence of a valid marriage is considered to be a legitimate child of the husband. the bf of the wife is a complete stranger to the kid...

super controversial itong case na to... i wonder if this will be repealed in the succeeding cases that will be decided

[kutingpie]

^napaka-unfair naman nun sis..kawawa naman yung husband, niloko na nga, hindi mo na nga anak, dadalin pa apelyido mo...puwede bang i-contest yun na hindi mo anak yun? unfair sa mga legal heir ng lalake kung sakaling mamatay or ma-annul yung kasal.

[chocolate]

yup pwede naman impugn yung legitimate status nung child na yun eh. that is the remedy of the husband

sabi nga ng prof ko. sa decision na yan ng SC, a father lost his child and another man, gained a child. super unfair. so far this is the latest case. hopefully, mareverse siya ng mga subsequent decisions. kasi super double standards eh. kasi kapag ang husband at nangaliwa, automatic na sa gf yung surname nung bata, not unless he recognized... oh di ba biased.

[primadona12]

YAH DEFIITELY

its a new bill i think thats less than 5 years old c/o bong revilla i think
(siguro kase madame [textspeak!] dad niyang  ehem)*